nerdmann
9 years ago

Just like fellow draft analyst Todd McShay did two weeks ago, Kiper has the Packers taking Arkansas tight end Hunter Henry in the first round in his latest mock draft released Thursday.

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If he's there, I'd definitely be tempted to take him. One of three key positions at which we need depth. Maybe two, in which we need starters.

Kiper 
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Bigbyfan
9 years ago
I'm still hoping that Ragland falls to us. If not, they trade up to get him. It's about time we get ourselves a potential premier MLB and let Clay move back to the outside.
Realistically, it'll end up being someone we haven't even thought of yet.

Edit: Screw Mel Kiper
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I'm still hoping that Ragland falls to us. If not, they trade up to get him. It's about time we get ourselves a potential premier MLB and let Clay move back to the outside.
Realistically, it'll end up being someone we haven't even thought of yet.

Edit: Screw Mel Kiper

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



Not convinced Clay still has it to play on the outside.
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OlHoss1884
9 years ago
There are no TE's rated in the first round. Ted Thompson is not going to reach for one like that. Sounds like ol' Helmet Hair Mel is going entirely on need, not on value, and Ted Thompson doesn't draft that way.
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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago

There are no TE's rated in the first round. Ted Thompson is not going to reach for one like that. Sounds like ol' Helmet Hair Mel is going entirely on need, not on value, and Ted Thompson doesn't draft that way.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Exactly, when we drafted Lacy many pundits had him going to us in the first round. We didn't select him and got him in the second. Ted has his board and I am pretty sure he sticks to it. Too bad his board for defensive guys other than DBs has been quite suspect.
nerdmann
9 years ago

Exactly, when we drafted Lacy many pundits had him going to us in the first round. We didn't select him and got him in the second. Ted has his board and I am pretty sure he sticks to it. Too bad his board for defensive guys other than DBs has been quite suspect.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Ted still got Lacy AND Franklin in that draft. Never say never!
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Rockmolder
9 years ago

There are no TE's rated in the first round. Ted Thompson is not going to reach for one like that. Sounds like ol' Helmet Hair Mel is going entirely on need, not on value, and Ted Thompson doesn't draft that way.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



I don't see why Henry wouldn't be a first rounder. He's ranked as a 1st-2nd most places I've seen and drawing comparisons to guys like Jason Witten and Greg Olsen.

He doesn't look like Gronk, but he does catch just about everything that's coming his way. He's not Vernon Davis, but he does have some speed and explosiveness. He's just a very complete player with very few flaws.

I think a lot will hinge on his combine. He could just work himself up into the top 24 if he puts up some good numbers and be out of our reach, anyway.
Rockmolder
9 years ago

I'm still hoping that Ragland falls to us. If not, they trade up to get him. It's about time we get ourselves a potential premier MLB and let Clay move back to the outside.
Realistically, it'll end up being someone we haven't even thought of yet.

Edit: Screw Mel Kiper

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



I'd rather take a shot on Jaylon Smith. I know he blew out his ACL and MCL, but he is a ridiculously talented player. Even if he wouldn't be ready at the start of the season, he's so much better than any ILB you can pick up in this draft that I'd gladly give up half a year.

The only problem is that Gurley had kind of the same situation last year and didn't fall nearly as far as some expected with the Rams swooping him up at ten. Very much like Ragland, I'm afraid Smith will be gone by the time we're on the clock, as well.
Yerko
9 years ago
I wouldn't be against this pick. I tend to group tight ends with defensive linemen in that "not a sexy pick" category in the 1st round. However, after a year of watching Richard Rodgers lug around like he had poop in his jock, I want the Packers to go after an offensive weapon like Hunter Henry.

Each season I sit here and watch tight ends like Olsen and Gronkowski change the game for their offenses. Adding a 6'5" target with some speed, exceptional hands and decent pass blocking will do wonders for this offense. While I view Richard Rodgers the way I do, I think he would be a great #2 TE. Running double TE formations with these two would be insane.

I say all this with the thought of Reggie Ragland being gone when we are on the board. I would love to see Ted Thompson trade up for Ragland. I read an interview he had done and the kid actually wants to be in Green Bay. He has ties with Haha and Lacy and said he grew up liking the Packers. Just add all of that to how good of an ILB he is.
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Barfarn
9 years ago

I'd rather take a shot on Jaylon Smith. I know he blew out his ACL and MCL, but he is a ridiculously talented player. Even if he wouldn't be ready at the start of the season, he's so much better than any ILB you can pick up in this draft that I'd gladly give up half a year.

The only problem is that Gurley had kind of the same situation last year and didn't fall nearly as far as some expected with the Rams swooping him up at ten. Very much like Ragland, I'm afraid Smith will be gone by the time we're on the clock, as well.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



SF's Harbaalke went nuts drafting guys that fell due to injury and it was part of the reason for their collapse. I believe the key to winning is production by first contract studs. About 100% of rookie production is lost if an injured player redshirts or misses camp and half a season of practice. Even worse rookie production isnt realized until 2nd year; 2nd year production isnt realized until 3rd year, etc. And then a decision on the player's longterm value must be made after seeing 3rd years of production instead of 4.

And sometimes it takes 2 years for a players' confidence in the injured body part to return and sometimes not all the athleticism returns. And some guys never get over an injury [See Derrick Sherrod, Justin Harrell].

Imagine if we lost the CHEAP production of Shields' or Daniels' 4th year because they redshirted as rookies; and 3rd and 4th years if recovery took 2 years. And then try to imagine trying to have a meeting of the minds w/ their agents as to their long term value at the end of their 3rd year or 2nd year [if recovery took 2 years]. All it would take is one of 31 GMs to have an exaggerated sense of their potential and we'd lose them. Oh BTW, some teams MUST sign FA's to meet the minimum spending requirements.
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