blueleopard
9 years ago

Trade our top two picks for a guy who has maybe a couple years left in the league? I think you guys are still feeling the loss from Arizona and want to make some reckless moves. Thankfully Ted usually keeps a cool head and isn't swayed by emotional appeals.

Anyone who thinks we're going to draft a Wide Receiver in the first round, or trade away our prized draft picks + cobbs/adams will be sorely disappointed. Having Jordy and Montgomery out for the year made our WR core look pretty bad, with them coming back + Adams hopefully continuing to develop I think Wide Receiver is far down the priority list.

Originally Posted by: isocleas2 



It worked for the 1994 49ers and the current generation Denver Broncos.

You can go ahead and make the tired comeback of "Oh, our team will be in cap hell for a few years and will suck."

Well at least Aaron Rodgers would have more Super Bowls than Brett. Thompson has already proven he can turn things around from bad to good pretty quickly. It's not like the guys we've been drafting in the first round aside from Randall, Matthews, and maybe Raji panned out anyway.
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blueleopard
9 years ago
Visiting has begun.

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gbguy20
9 years ago
Lots of needs this year, can't fill them all through the draft. Hello, Ted Thompson.
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porky88
9 years ago
I'd look to upgrade on any player in red and orange, even if they are trending upward. In addition, I would be concerned with any purple player in italics. These are underachievers.

Key
5 Star Player
4 Star Player
3 Star Player
2 Star Player
1 Star Player

Bold = Trending Up
Italic = Trending Down
Normal = No Apparent Trend

Offense
QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Eddie Lacy
WR: Jordy Nelson
WR: Randall Cobb
WR: Davante Adams
TE: Richard Rodgers
LT: David Bahkitari
LG: Josh Sitton
C: Corey Linsley
RG: T.J. Lang
RT: Bryan Bulaga


Defense
DE: Mike Daniels
NT: Josh Boyd
DE: Mike Pennel
OLB: Clay Matthews
ILB: Jake Ryan
ILB: Sam Barrington
OLB: Julius Peppers
CB: Demaryius Randle
CB: Sam Shields
FS: Morgan Burnett
SS: HaHa Clinton-Dix


Other Notable Players
NB: Quentin Rollins
DB: Micah Hyde

Special Teams
K: Mason Crosby
P: Tim Masthay
Smokey
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9 years ago

I'd look to upgrade on any player in red and orange, even if they are trending upward. In addition, I would be concerned with any purple player in italics. These are underachievers.

Key
5 Star Player
4 Star Player
3 Star Player
2 Star Player
1 Star Player

Bold = Trending Up
Italic = Trending Down
Normal = No Apparent Trend

Offense
QB: Aaron Rodgers
RB: Eddie Lacy
WR: Jordy Nelson
WR: Randall Cobb
WR: Davante Adams
TE: Richard Rodgers
LT: David Bahkitari
LG: Josh Sitton
C: Corey Linsley
RG: T.J. Lang
RT: Bryan Bulaga


Defense
DE: Mike Daniels
NT: Josh Boyd
DE: Mike Pennel
OLB: Clay Matthews
ILB: Jake Ryan
ILB: Sam Barrington
OLB: Julius Peppers
CB: Demaryius Randle
CB: Sam Shields
FS: Morgan Burnett
SS: HaHa Clinton-Dix


Other Notable Players
NB: Quentin Rollins
DB: Micah Hyde

Special Teams
K: Mason Crosby
P: Tim Masthay

Originally Posted by: porky88 



So your 1st Draft choice would be a WR or a NT . I would agree with the WR, but my alternate 1st choice would be an OL [LT] . Good Beef with talent is hard to come by and some on the OL could use a challenge.
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9 years ago
Coaches as well as staff can sometimes be at fault for poor performance. It should be reasoned however that they are only as good as the players that they have to work with.

WR's need to get open and catch footballs.

Linemen need to block as well as tackle.

Punters need to help provide field position with their kicks.


IMO, Blaming MM for the early playoff departure (again) is like blaming the cook for the tough steak he was forced to prepare. The cook (MM) did not buy the steak, the GM (TT) did. Don't blame MM because Ted Thompson buys poor quality players.

A new GM would suit me just fine.

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nerdmann
9 years ago

Coaches as well as staff can sometimes be at fault for poor performance. It should be reasoned however that they are only as good as the players that they have to work with.

WR's need to get open and catch footballs.

Linemen need to block as well as tackle.

Punters need to help provide field position with their kicks.


IMO, Blaming Mike McCarthy for the early playoff departure (again) is like blaming the cook for the tough steak he was forced to prepare. The cook (MM) did not buy the steak, the GM (TT) did. Don't blame Mike McCarthy because Ted Thompson buys poor quality players.

A new GM would suit me just fine.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



It's not the players that cause this team to go into a shell. They play well for 2 quarters, proving that they CAN do so.
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adambr2
9 years ago
Coming into 2015, no one would have imagined that WR would be considered a need. I tend to think that is still the case and that drafting one high would be a bit of an overreaction. With Nelson and Montgomery returning and Janis earning more trust and snaps, I think there's too much talent on the WRs corps to have a repeat, especially with Rodgers being unlikely to repeat a down year. IMHO 2015 just happened to be a case of everything that could have gone wrong with the WRs did, between the Nelson and Montgomery injuries and Cobb and Adams struggles. I think we'll be just fine in 2016 with who we have.

I consider ILB and TE to be much higher on the priority list. Maybe OLB too depending on what happens with Peppers.
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9 years ago

Coming into 2015, no one would have imagined that WR would be considered a need. I tend to think that is still the case and that drafting one high would be a bit of an overreaction. With Nelson and Montgomery returning and Janis earning more trust and snaps, I think there's too much talent on the WRs corps to have a repeat, especially with Rodgers being unlikely to repeat a down year. IMHO 2015 just happened to be a case of everything that could have gone wrong with the WRs did, between the Nelson and Montgomery injuries and Cobb and Adams struggles. I think we'll be just fine in 2016 with who we have.

I consider ILB and TE to be much higher on the priority list. Maybe OLB too depending on what happens with Peppers.

Originally Posted by: adambr2 




Offensive Linemen in the NFL are only expected to provide protection for their QB for 3 to 4 seconds. In that time, WR's are expected to run their routes and get open so their QB can have a clear target to throw the football to. Next , these professional athletes are "PAID" to catch the football.

The 2015 Packer WR's preformed very poorly. While it's true that J. Nelson was out for the season with an injury, the entire production of the WR corp should not rest upon one player. Janis and "Abby" did show promise when they were allowed to play. Cobb and Adams both had terrible seasons, and Montgomery was near invisible. James Jones was at times the bright spot of the passing game.

Trading Cobb / Adams or both to get an A.J. Green, or an Odell Beckham would be worth the player(s) + draft picks needed to make a deal. Don't worry though, Ted Thompson would never have the balls to make a bold deal.

So Draft a WR 1st in the 2016 NFL Draft !

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adambr2
9 years ago

Offensive Linemen in the NFL are only expected to provide protection for their QB for 3 to 4 seconds. In that time, WR's are expected to run their routes and get open so their QB can have a clear target to throw the football to. Next , these professional athletes are "PAID" to catch the football.

The 2015 Packer WR's preformed very poorly. While it's true that J. Nelson was out for the season with an injury, the entire production of the WR corp should not rest upon one player. Janis and "Abby" did show promise when they were allowed to play. Cobb and Adams both had terrible seasons, and Montgomery was near invisible. James Jones was at times the bright spot of the passing game.

Trading Cobb / Adams or both to get an A.J. Green, or an Odell Beckham would be worth the player(s) + draft picks needed to make a deal. Don't worry though, Ted Thompson would never have the balls to make a bold deal.

So Draft a WR 1st in the 2016 NFL Draft !

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Cobb's contract after a down year makes him a pretty unattractive trade asset. Someone would take a flyer on Adams, but he's not worth more than a late round pick at this point. Neither really is going to bring a high end WR back.

The only WR in the draft that projects it the kind of upside that you're looking for is Laquon Treadwell and trading either or both of Cobb and Adams, even packaged with the #27 pick, isn't going to be nearly enough to obtain a pick that high.
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