OlHoss1884
8 years ago
I just don't see how we win this one. The Cards defense is too good and too balanced. I don't think too much of their running offense, but we don't have the pass rush or secondary to stop their passing game. Now that it looks like we're playing better on offense I think we can keep it close but we lose unless by some miracle the Cards turn it over 4 times.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits" --Albert Einstein
sschind
8 years ago

Yes.....find out what size he wears!!!!😎

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



And get one 2 sizes smaller.

sschind
8 years ago

I think the only motivation the Packers should need in this game is that Arians didn't pull off the dogs when the game was well in hand and the Packers down to playing their backup lousy tackles. He just kept blitzing. That's kicking a team when they are down, and it is bush league by Arians. Yes they deserve a beat down, but I'll take a 3 point win.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



One of the biggest complaints about McCarthy is that he takes his foot off the gas and goes conservative. He doesn't go for the jugular with the kill shot. However, when Arians does it its bush league. Kind of hypocritical don't you think.

Kinda like a Seahawks fan whining that the Patriots got lucky in the SB.

Maybe you aren't one of those whining about McCarthy and if that's the case I'm sorry but if you are not you are one of the very few who don't.
sschind
8 years ago

Are you suggesting Aaron gets hurt in practice this week, Brett quickly un-retires, and pulls off the ultimate return to the green and gold? ☺️

Originally Posted by: jdlax 



Oops, good catch, maybe you should take Adams' place on the roster😁

Zero2Cool
8 years ago

One of the biggest complaints about McCarthy is that he takes his foot off the gas and goes conservative. He doesn't go for the jugular with the kill shot. However, when Arians does it its bush league. Kind of hypocritical don't you think.

Kinda like a Seahawks fan whining that the Patriots got lucky in the SB.

Maybe you aren't one of those whining about McCarthy and if that's the case I'm sorry but if you are not you are one of the very few who don't.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



And the same person will say the Packers are underachieving to degrade the coaching staff and moments later say Ted Thompson has failed to give the coaching staff the necessary players to win.

It is all, oh, so so confusing.
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mi_keys
8 years ago

And the same person will say the Packers are underachieving to degrade the coaching staff and moments later say Ted Thompson has failed to give the coaching staff the necessary players to win.

It is all, oh, so so confusing.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



No it's not. Say whatever suits your current narrative. Simples! Consistency and a coherent line of reasoning are overrated anyway.
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Barfarn
8 years ago
This game is about 1 thing: Rodger. Make no mistake about it, in Washington Rodgers single handedly effed up the offense on first 3 drives and had some help on 4th:

Drive 1: 3rd down; Abby had a full 1.5 yards of separation on a cross w/ Goldsen stepping up in his zone to guard Cobb/stop QB run. Aaron Rodgers had a choice to throw it before Abbey lines up w/ Goldsen or wait for him to clear. Aaron Rodgers threw it right at Goldsen, he didnt see Goldsen there, its lucky that wasn’t tipped/INT. Rodgers is playing differently than his past nature suggests he would, among other things, he is just not seeing the field like he used to.

Drive 2: 1st down, good protection, Cobb had Hall beat on slant; but Aaron Rodgers threw a duck to Jones. On 3rd down [Washington’s 2 pt safety], there was adequate protection. JC gave up too much penetration and Rodgers tried to run inside the DE who was ready to close and it is not where JCT expects Aaron Rodgers to be. Initially Cobb was open right, but it would only be 1st if he broke a tackle or two. If Aaron Rodgers stayed in pocket and took a hit, he could have hit Jones on deep curl on left. Or he could have moved/scrambled right where he set his protection. 5 blockers had the other 3 rushers controlled. Yes, JCT gets a C-/D+ for his role; but the sack was caused by Aaron Rodgers making 2 mental errors: (1) he forgot where his protection was; and (2) OTs expect Aaron Rodgers to run inside the DE only if the DE is rushing wider and more upfield.

Drive 3: on 2nd down R.Rodgers was open for 1st on sideline comebacker; but Aaron Rodgers skipped the pass in there. And on 3rd down there was good pressure causing Aaron Rodgers to back-peddle; but Aaron Rodgers had Cobb lined up who was open by 2-3 yards and he just missed him.

Drive 4: Abby had a drop on 2nd down that would have left a 3rd and 4-5 instead of 3rd and 8. But on 3rd and 8 Jones was open on outside hook; but throw was too far inside and CB knocked it down.

If Rodgers plays like this for anymore than one quarter, we’re done. If he knuckleheads it for a quarter, there’s a huge disparity in defensive snaps and we're down by 2 scores again, we’ll only have a chance if AZ gets stupid later in the game. There is no force on the earth powerful enough to stop GB’s offense, except GB players.

AZ’s defense was #24 last year and they’re missing DRC, Dan Williams, Okefor and Mathieu. This Defense is worse than last years’. The difference in the stats is that w/o Palmer the Offense went 3 and out almost every drive; this year the Offense gives the D less drives to defend and makes other Offenses one dimensional. If the GB offense sucks it wont be because a good defense shut us down; because this Defense is a major league statistical whore pretender.

On Ahrens “running up the score:”
If a team believes the other is better; it is hard to win. Ahrens wasn’t “running up the score;” he felt they’d be facing GB in playoffs 3 weeks later; he was trying to demoralize GB, especially Rodgers. I’ll bet he told his team at halftime; these guys have come back from 17 point deficits; and then stole a line from Coach Yost in Remember the Titans, “we have to make them remember the day they played the Cardinals.” If they got into Rodgers’ head, we’re done.

Teams would NEVER defer after winning the toss; because GB was the BEST at taking that opening drive and scoring; now it’s the rage. Since bye week; give Rodgers the ball on the first drive and it’s a ticket to an automatic no more than one first and punt. This bullshit has got to stop! Rodgers MUST execute on that first drive; if he does, and finishes the game executing, then we will win and Ted Thompson will be a genius. If Aaron Rodgers does his Mark Sanchez impersonation; then we will lose and then Ted Thompson will for some reason be believed to have not made the right roster moves [Yes, it is that insane].

The warm temps until recently and Saturday night game time helps. The GB players have not acclimated to winter yet. The high in AZ is supposed to be around 65; but at 6:30 the temp should be 6-8 degrees cooler and dropping to low 50’s by end of game. So Mike McCarthy has got the guys practicing in mid 50 temps in the Hutson center; the temp difference won’t be a factor.
blueleopard
8 years ago
Okay Rob Demovsky.
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hardrocker950
8 years ago

This game is about 1 thing: Rodger. Make no mistake about it, in Washington Rodgers single handedly effed up the offense on first 3 drives and had some help on 4th:

Drive 1: 3rd down; Abby had a full 1.5 yards of separation on a cross w/ Goldsen stepping up in his zone to guard Cobb/stop QB run. Aaron Rodgers had a choice to throw it before Abbey lines up w/ Goldsen or wait for him to clear. Aaron Rodgers threw it right at Goldsen, he didnt see Goldsen there, its lucky that wasn’t tipped/INT. Rodgers is playing differently than his past nature suggests he would, among other things, he is just not seeing the field like he used to.

Drive 2: 1st down, good protection, Cobb had Hall beat on slant; but Aaron Rodgers threw a duck to Jones. On 3rd down [Washington’s 2 pt safety], there was adequate protection. JC gave up too much penetration and Rodgers tried to run inside the DE who was ready to close and it is not where JCT expects Aaron Rodgers to be. Initially Cobb was open right, but it would only be 1st if he broke a tackle or two. If Aaron Rodgers stayed in pocket and took a hit, he could have hit Jones on deep curl on left. Or he could have moved/scrambled right where he set his protection. 5 blockers had the other 3 rushers controlled. Yes, JCT gets a C-/D+ for his role; but the sack was caused by Aaron Rodgers making 2 mental errors: (1) he forgot where his protection was; and (2) OTs expect Aaron Rodgers to run inside the DE only if the DE is rushing wider and more upfield.

Drive 3: on 2nd down R.Rodgers was open for 1st on sideline comebacker; but Aaron Rodgers skipped the pass in there. And on 3rd down there was good pressure causing Aaron Rodgers to back-peddle; but Aaron Rodgers had Cobb lined up who was open by 2-3 yards and he just missed him.

Drive 4: Abby had a drop on 2nd down that would have left a 3rd and 4-5 instead of 3rd and 8. But on 3rd and 8 Jones was open on outside hook; but throw was too far inside and CB knocked it down.

If Rodgers plays like this for anymore than one quarter, we’re done. If he knuckleheads it for a quarter, there’s a huge disparity in defensive snaps and we're down by 2 scores again, we’ll only have a chance if AZ gets stupid later in the game. There is no force on the earth powerful enough to stop GB’s offense, except GB players.

AZ’s defense was #24 last year and they’re missing DRC, Dan Williams, Okefor and Mathieu. This Defense is worse than last years’. The difference in the stats is that w/o Palmer the Offense went 3 and out almost every drive; this year the Offense gives the D less drives to defend and makes other Offenses one dimensional. If the GB offense sucks it wont be because a good defense shut us down; because this Defense is a major league statistical whore pretender.

On Ahrens “running up the score:”
If a team believes the other is better; it is hard to win. Ahrens wasn’t “running up the score;” he felt they’d be facing GB in playoffs 3 weeks later; he was trying to demoralize GB, especially Rodgers. I’ll bet he told his team at halftime; these guys have come back from 17 point deficits; and then stole a line from Coach Yost in Remember the Titans, “we have to make them remember the day they played the Cardinals.” If they got into Rodgers’ head, we’re done.

Teams would NEVER defer after winning the toss; because GB was the BEST at taking that opening drive and scoring; now it’s the rage. Since bye week; give Rodgers the ball on the first drive and it’s a ticket to an automatic no more than one first and punt. This bullshit has got to stop! Rodgers MUST execute on that first drive; if he does, and finishes the game executing, then we will win and Ted Thompson will be a genius. If Aaron Rodgers does his Mark Sanchez impersonation; then we will lose and then Ted Thompson will for some reason be believed to have not made the right roster moves [Yes, it is that insane].

The warm temps until recently and Saturday night game time helps. The GB players have not acclimated to winter yet. The high in AZ is supposed to be around 65; but at 6:30 the temp should be 6-8 degrees cooler and dropping to low 50’s by end of game. So Mike McCarthy has got the guys practicing in mid 50 temps in the Hutson center; the temp difference won’t be a factor.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Although it is easy to pick the game apart from our couch - it is a bit disappointing that he missed on these early drives. He needs to be ready at kickoff to make the plays he did later in the game. You don't beat teams like Arizona by short stalled drives.

I have to imagine that our offense feels good after finally showing up in Washington. They WILL show up, and they WILL play hard. Aaron will not let their previous meeting ruin this game - reserve that for guys like Cutler.

The more I think about the last game - I want Arians to get so mad that he has a heart attack when things don't go his way. His hissy fit over the (non) safety made me lose all respect for that assclown. Seriously- fuck that guy.

I am picking the Packers in a major upset.

Packers 38
Cardinals 24
8 years ago
I think this week is the week we see Janis get quality snaps, just given the lack of depth we have. I've been as hard on Janis as anyone, but he's been a special team demon and I think this might be the week that he earns some big boy reps. I think we might see the Jordy Sluggo called his way. They called it once last week (can't remember who ran it, maybe Jones?) but the speed just wasn't there. I think that route can make use of Janis' speed but also allow him to just run and get the ball as opposed to some of the other routes he's struggled with.

Probably just a pipe dream, but seeing it called last week got me thinking!


We have a punchers chance in this one but we have to play a damn near perfect game. If we win this one, I fear NO ONE else in the NFC.

This one is either a rehash of week 17 or a repeat of Atlanta 2010. LETS HOPE FOR THE LATTER.
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