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Well i'm still searching for an article ESPN is reporting that the true A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003. It doesn't surprise me when you look at how small built he used to be. They are saying nothing will come of it because it was before the rule was in place for MLB. I just don't understand all this stuff why don't we hear about pitchers on roids? Now i see they are starting to investigate the nfl even more. On another note just how many times can the feds go after Bonds i say just let the crap end already.


In 2003, when he won the American League home run title and the AL Most Valuable Player award as a shortstop for the Texas Rangers, Alex Rodriguez tested positive for two anabolic steroids, four sources have independently told Sports Illustrated.


When approached by an SI reporter on Thursday at a gym in Miami, Rodriguez declined to discuss his 2003 test results. "You'll have to talk to the union," said Rodriguez, the Yankees' third baseman since his trade to New York in February 2004. When asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I'm not saying anything."






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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/index.html?eref=T1 
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Packers_Finland
16 years ago
Don't say A-Rod on a packer forum without meaning Aaron Rodgers. Threw me off.

The way I see it is baseball is rotten to the core with steroid users. The league system sucks because you one game doesn't matter shit. Plus it's boring.
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. I like baseball. the problem is that steroids weren't illegal in baseball.
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16 years ago

well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. I like baseball. the problem is that steroids weren't illegal in baseball.

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Baseball is above the law?
PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
Steroids have been illegal for years. Just because baseball, and other sports just ignored them doesn't mean it was right.

Now looking back, nothing is going to change, so I say let it drop. And concentrate on the future and stop them from now forward.
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16 years ago
Here is what boggles my mind.

When people like Peter Gammons, say that the only way he would vote for McGwire (H.O.F.) is if he admitted that he used steroids. What?

Thats like if I cheated on a test, and my friend ratted on me. Then my teacher says, "I am going to fail you based on these allegations that you cheated; but if you admit to me that you cheated, I will give you an A."

The stupidity in this logic is staggering.

If someone admits that he used steroids, or tests positive for steroids, he should not be in the HOF.

Edit: And BTW, McGwire does not belong in the HOF based on his testimony ("I'm not going to talk about the past.") before Congress. If you think he did not use steroids, then I have some ocean front property in Missouri for sale.
bozz_2006
16 years ago
i'm not saying it was right. i'm not saying baseball was above the law. all i'm saying is there was no specific rule outlawing steroids in baseball.

I mean, there is no stipulation in my contract saying that I can't use steroids.
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16 years ago
True.......if it wasn't "illegal" at the time, you can't really do much about it now.
Like was already said though, you can go after players from this point forward.
Guys like Bonds and McGuire and Sosa, the way they all bulked up, you have to believe they were using. But you can't do much now. To me it DOES taint what they accomplished though. But thats just my opinion.
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16 years ago
According to some people at a certain baseball forum, it is ok for the players to use steroids, because the pitchers were probably cheating too.

Thats a good message to send to our kids. Its ok to cheat in sports, because your opponent probably cheats too. Go ahead and cheat on your wife also, as she has probably been unfaithful as well, so its ok.

Oh, and using steroids doesn't give you an advantage anyway, apparently. That must be why so many players use it. Oh the stupidity. :scratch:
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According to some people at a certain baseball forum, it is ok for the players to use steroids, because the pitchers were probably cheating too.

Thats a good message to send to our kids. Its ok to cheat in sports, because your opponent probably cheats too. Go ahead and cheat on your wife also, as she has probably been unfaithful as well, so its ok.

Oh, and using steroids doesn't give you an advantage anyway, apparently. That must be why so many players use it. Oh the stupidity. :scratch:

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I agree.....what great "logic", hey?
Go ahead and cheat......everyone else is, right?
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According to some people at a certain baseball forum, it is ok for the players to use steroids, because the pitchers were probably cheating too.

Thats a good message to send to our kids. Its ok to cheat in sports, because your opponent probably cheats too. Go ahead and cheat on your wife also, as she has probably been unfaithful as well, so its ok.

Oh, and using steroids doesn't give you an advantage anyway, apparently. That must be why so many players use it. Oh the stupidity. :scratch:

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Iron i still don't believe it helps all that much, after all you still have to hit that little white ball coming at you 100 mph. But then again the guy throwing the ball might have an advantage because of the roids to help him throw the ball faster. Btw Iron have you noticed you don't see many pitchers using junk pitches to get guys out its all throwing the ball hard now. My fav pitcher has to be Greg Maddux he never threw really hard but his location and changing speeds amazed me. When i played ball i was a pitcher and back then when i was 15/16 i was throwing around 90 with my fastball and had 3 different variations of curve balls which i used as my out pitches. No better feeling then buzzing a guys head with a 0-2 fastball and then coming back with uncle charlie and watch him bail out as the catcher catches the ball over the outside corner. Ahhhhh those were the days.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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bozz_2006
16 years ago
you threw 90mph as a 15/16 year old? I'm glad i never played against you! striking out would have been the least of my concerns! i'd be much more worried about pooping when one of those zingers comes a little too close for comfort!
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16 years ago

According to some people at a certain baseball forum, it is ok for the players to use steroids, because the pitchers were probably cheating too.

Thats a good message to send to our kids. Its ok to cheat in sports, because your opponent probably cheats too. Go ahead and cheat on your wife also, as she has probably been unfaithful as well, so its ok.

Oh, and using steroids doesn't give you an advantage anyway, apparently. That must be why so many players use it. Oh the stupidity. :scratch:

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Iron i still don't believe it helps all that much

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It helps. Or they wouldn't use it.
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If the person already has a good eye for the ball, it "helps" them turn what might just be a long fly out into a home run.
Thats why they used.
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16 years ago
And steroids work alot better when you're some skinny kid than when you can already hit the ball, I imagine.

I don't know alot about the MLB, so I'm not going to pretent like I know anything, but I can imagine that his A-rod had way more advantage of taking steroids than someone like Bonds, who I happend to see hit his record-setting homerun on TV.

On the other hand, look at Brady. He was some horrible skinny kid at the combine and is pretty great now. With the NFL looking for illegal substances as much as they're doing, I doubt he achieved it by taking steroids.
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And steroids work alot better when you're some skinny kid than when you can already hit the ball, I imagine.

I don't know alot about the MLB, so I'm not going to pretent like I know anything, but I can imagine that his A-rod had way more advantage of taking steroids than someone like Bonds, who I happend to see hit his record-setting homerun on TV.

On the other hand, look at Brady. He was some horrible skinny kid at the combine and is pretty great now. With the NFL looking for illegal substances as much as they're doing, I doubt he achieved it by taking steroids.

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Thats what i was saying Rock. If you already have a good eye for hitting the ball, your long fly outs suddenly become home runs when you bulk up with roids.
All you have to do is look at early baseball cards of Bonds, McGuire and Sosa, and you can see that they looked "normal" when they started out.......then suddenly all 3 look like "The Incredible Hulk".
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you threw 90mph as a 15/16 year old? I'm glad i never played against you! striking out would have been the least of my concerns! i'd be much more worried about pooping when one of those zingers comes a little too close for comfort!

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lmao I only hit like 3 people when i played and one was on purpose and that was cuz he hit me in the head, so i threw at his head and cracked the batting helmet. Btw i stood 6'2 235 at that age so i was a little intimidating i guess.

But back on subject i'll try and find pics of A-rod before roids and A-Rod after.
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Theres A-Rod thru the years
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Sure does look like he "worked out" alot, hey?
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16 years ago
I really dont see a huge difference in that side to side picture..when was the left picture taken and when was the right one taken?

He might be a tad bigger but that very well could be cuz of "growing" up..People do get bigger from the time they are a rookie to even 4 years later

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