The longest yard: Packers have big problems on third-and-1 plays

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

As for the Starks play against the Lions, it’s worth wondering whether a power run between the tackles would have been the better option. But if McCarthy indeed has the best offensive line he’s fielded in his 10 years as head coach, as he has said repeatedly during the last two seasons, then it shouldn’t matter what the play call is.

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Yeah, it's all about the execution. So let's just keep running 3 and 1 from the shotgun. Now if only there was some way to scapegoat Davante...

When receiver Davante Adams couldn’t sustain his block on linebacker Tahir Whitehead, the play was doomed.

AHA! We missed 3 and 1 because a WR missed a block! What good is having the best Gs in the NFC, when your WR is gonna blow the play up in short yardage?

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mi_keys
Senior Member

9 years ago

Can we run a fucking quarterback sneak once? Just once. That's all I ask.

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texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

9 years ago

And just why do you guys think that 3rd and 1 trouble is? - You who deny how shitty our O Line is, I mean? The only way we can ever run anything is some kind of trickery or misdirection - that or the RB bouncing somewhere away from the big stack up where the play is called. To just man up and push 'em back in an obvious run situation like 3rd and 1? It just ain't happening with this O Line. And of course, they aren't capable of decent pass blocking either.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

How often do the Packers run up the gut on 3rd and 1?
Do they use I-formation or single back or is it out of the shotgun with a draw?
Wait, do they even run or do they throw it deep?

I'm willing to bet if we analyzed each 3rd and 1 we would see a good percentage of conversions made when the quarterback is under center and formation is single back or I-formation with running between the Tackles.

When you're quarterback is in the pistol or shotgun, the running back loses nearly half a second if vision. That's not good when split second decisions are determining a successful one yard conversion.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Can we run a fucking quarterback sneak once? Just once. That's all I ask.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys

I'd even take that infernal Kuhn dive play at this point.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Our Ts are questionable but our interior is one of the best in the league.

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DakotaT
Select Member

9 years ago

AHA! We missed 3 and 1 because a WR missed a block! What good is having the best Gs in the NFC, when your WR is gonna blow the play up in short yardage?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Who the fuck thinks we have the best guards in the NFC. They are not punishing run blockers, not even close, which is why we have our asses handed to us on 3rd and short repeatedly.

packerfanoutwest
Member

9 years ago

if the rb's can't do it, let a 300 lineman run it

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

Who the fuck thinks we have the best guards in the NFC. They are not punishing run blockers, not even close, which is why we have our asses handed to us on 3rd and short repeatedly.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Who would you take over them?

I hypothesize that the reason we keep getting stuffed in short yardage is that we continue to run plays from the shotgun and pistol.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#10

if the rb's can't do it, let a 300 lineman run it

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

I liked Raji as a lead blocker back in the day.

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