Rookie Jake Ryan emerging as playmaker at ILB· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

Really surprised how this less than A.J. Hawk Linebacker is being praised for being a quarter of of the LB Hawk was and yet we're excited about Jake Ryan? It really is all about the draft spot, isn't it?

DakotaT
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9 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Overpaying his underachieving ass didn't sit too well with me either. Then the Brad Jones contract just compounded Ted's lunacy.

beast
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9 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I think it would be more correct to say, it's all about the hype (or lack there of) and how a player lives up to it (or not).
But the draft spot can be a HUGE factor into the hype of a player... like it was by Packers fans expecting a game changer for the next decade with the #5 overall pick...

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#14

Are we talking about this year only? Or the future? I ask that because nobody mentioned Sam Barrington, who to me, seemed a lot better than Palmer and at least as good, probably better than Ryan.

I think any of these guys would be adequate playing next to Clay Matthews. However, I really don't see any of the three as special enough to be the alpha dog of the defense. So do we draft a ILB near the top of the draft? I doubt it. Matthews should have several more good years, and we probably need other things more.

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buckeyepackfan
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9 years ago

#15

Doesn't matter what round he is drafted, if he leads the team in tackles for the next 9 years, becomes the all time tackling leader in Packer history and helps The Packers win a Super Bowl, Jake Ryan will get paid just like a 1st round draft pick.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#16

It's asinine for us to praise one player for lesser production simply based on salary/draft. If a player drafted #5 overall gets 10 tackles, we blast the hell out of him for not getting 20? Yet, if someone drafted #129 overall gets 5 tackles we praise them? Seriously? I'm floored by this. What the player is being paid, or where they were drafted means absolutely nothing on the field. Why is this distinction so challenging to comprehend?

texaspackerbacker
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9 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

It does go to EXPECTATIONS though.

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blueleopard
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9 years ago

#18

Unless there's a blue chip performer who's in our range, I wait it out and groom Barrington and Ryan to take over the middle and move Clay back outside since Peppers will probably retire.

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steveishere
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9 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Maybe focus a little less on the "production" and a little more on how they get it. Hawk in his last couple seasons still got plenty of tackles but he got them playing on his heels instead of coming forward. Hed get smoked on anything to the outside because he had cement buckets on his feet and get blown up by fullbacks. If those things happen to Ryan then the defense will struggle and nobody will be praising him. As it stands now hes attacking the ballcarriers at the line, working through traffic and reaching runners on the boundaries. If he keeps doing things like that consistently then hes better than Hawk was recently whether he ends up with 5 tackles or 30.

DarkaneRules
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9 years ago

#20

Ryan's emergence and Joe Thomas' availability have allowed Clay to move back to OLB on nickel packages right? Not sure what the immediate future holds for the position, but I am sure they'll draft a ILB next year and with Ryan's development that should get Clay back to OLB on a more consistent basis.

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

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