nerdmann
9 years ago

Millertime...I don't see how the coaches didn't have the TEAM prepared. One aspect sucked today, the passing game. As you noted, virtually the rest of the team was fine
170some yards rushing, gave up 17 points and you lose?

I don't buy the davante ankle injury plaguing him, zero. If you said it was his broken wrist or broken grey matter between the ears, ok, then I'd agree with you.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Eddie had, what 6.2 per carry? Starks had 5.6? But by all means, abandon the run and start passing, because that's so much more reliable. đź‘Ž
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

He did get knocked off his route! Those plays use to be our bread and butter

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Yep, and I said, we knew it was not on Aaron.

He just said that he and the receivers need to work more to get on the same page. He's right. The lack of chemistry is making them and he look bad.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I think Davante Adams ankle is still bothering him and he's not going 100%. Give his snaps to Ty Montgomery (who hopefully is healthy, offense hasn't been the same without him) and Jeff Janis.

Rodgers just said the interception was on time, but Davante ran into the Safety and Porter got a "gift interception there". Of course, it wasn't your fault Aaron, thank you for clearing that up.

Wait, hold the show! Coach is mad as hell and he IS going to keep taking it!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Fuck Mike McCarthy.

His teams have been shitting themselves for 2 quarters of every game for a decade, culminating in what happened in Seattle last January. Obviously it's not something that he CAN do something about. Or maybe he is just unwilling.

How many chances is he going to get?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
9 years ago

Yep, and I said, we knew it was not on Aaron.

He just said that he and the receivers need to work more to get on the same page. He's right. The lack of chemistry is making them and he look bad.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



...and how much more time do they neeed? This has been 6ish weeks of ineptitude? I don't dispute what you're saying, just lacking faith it'll be corrected.
nerdmann
9 years ago

...and how much more time do they neeed? This has been 6ish weeks of ineptitude? I don't dispute what you're saying, just lacking faith it'll be corrected.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



This is something that has been going on for a long time. Mike's teams never show up for a full 60, but for a long time they would still win, so everyone just thought that 2 quarters of self shitting was ok.

This is what happens, when you don't "do the right thing, all the time."
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DakotaT
9 years ago

Fuck Mike McCarthy.

His teams have been shitting themselves for 2 quarters of every game for a decade, culminating in what happened in Seattle last January. Obviously it's not something that he CAN do something about. Or maybe he is just unwilling.

How many chances is he going to get?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



A coach that wins a Super Bowl and has the winning percentage Mike McCarthy has, gets a lot of latitude when things aren't going well. I wanted him fired after the Seattle debacle, but then most in here think I'm unreasonable.

You don't lose a game you dominated for 55 minutes and then blame it in on a rookie tight end. That scoreboard should have been lit up like a New Years eve in Time Square, and Seattle buried.
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millertime
9 years ago

Millertime...I don't see how the coaches didn't have the TEAM prepared. One aspect sucked today, the passing game. As you noted, virtually the rest of the team was fine
170some yards rushing, gave up 17 points and you lose?

I don't buy the davante ankle injury plaguing him, zero. If you said it was his broken wrist or broken grey matter between the ears, ok, then I'd agree with you.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I agree one aspect was way off. the Packers dominated at least 85% of the plays. The 15% of plays we didn't dominate were the game changers ie. Missed snap, interception, Lacys fumble, the 3rd and longs we gave up, etc.
musccy
9 years ago

This is something that has been going on for a long time. Mike's teams never show up for a full 60, but for a long time they would still win, so everyone just thought that 2 quarters of self shitting was ok.

This is what happens, when you don't "do the right thing, all the time."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This isn't about "lulls" or not showing up for parts of the game. Something is systemically wrong with this passing game. The run game and even screens are working yet the receivers still can't get open or catch, and Aaron Rodgers is way off target.

77 yards in a game, struggling to break 50% completion % ... this is more than a lull.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

...and how much more time do they neeed? This has been 6ish weeks of ineptitude? I don't dispute what you're saying, just lacking faith it'll be corrected.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



You can have a 70.8% completion percentage when nearly all of your passes are 10 yards or less. Somehow, most of us fell into complacent comfort in that because they were winning. And when I posted my thoughts during that run that the Packers offense (Rodgers specifically) wasn't actually playing as great as the statistics said, I got blasted hard for it. THAT is when I lost faith in the Packers offense and then a week or two later they started losing. I haven't been emotionally invested in any game this season and won't until the playoffs. Normally I get really excited during Packers games. Sometimes good, sometimes bad, lol.

If Jeff Janis could step up and be SOMETHING, it would really help the Packers offense a lot. Ty Montgomery is also missed more than I think we want to admit.

Another thing I've chirped on numerous times since very early on is the lack of converting on third downs.


This isn't about "lulls" or not showing up for parts of the game. Something is systemically wrong with this passing game. The run game and even screens are working yet the receivers still can't get open or catch, and Aaron Rodgers is way off target.

77 yards in a game, struggling to break 50% completion % ... this is more than a lull.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Check it out, lol.
http://www.packershome.com/forum/posts/m329152-Packers-have-dull--boring-and-easily-predictable-route-tree#post329152 
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steveishere
9 years ago
McCarthy can say whatever he wants in a press conference but until he actually changes something more substantial than which assistant coach is in the press box it means he thinks everything is fine. The offense was stale and weak back when we played SF and has been sub par almost every week since then but they've done nothing new. This isn't going to get fixed because Mike will never let go of his staff no matter how bad they are until they fail for several years in a row.

The offense has seriously looks like they fired everyone and brought Bob Sanders in to coordinate and he just said every play WRs just run out there and try to get open, Aaron run around no matter how clean the pocket is and find someone to throw to.
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