Nice Strawman argument: the issue at hand is publicly singling-out another player and the specific examples given were gestures on the field and dressing down a player in an effing interview. Leaders do not do this! Yelling who knows what and why at a group of players on the sidelines is not that. Is it possible a leader could screw-up in the heat of the moment; but if Brady or Manning did that to the lowliest player, they'd come graveling for forgiveness of that lowly player.
Again, sorry to just point out the facts and the FACTS firmly rebut the idea that: "AR is just fine." I've seen you criticize players and never thought of it as "complaining." Oh well. Here's what I' think: if a person writes something unliked, then one should not name-call or attack the writer [there's a name for that type of logical fallacy argument too: "ad hominem"]; I'd suggest legitimate logical rational counter-argument instead. If you disagree, please, either argue against the underlying facts or argue that those facts have been misapplied to the conclusion drawn from them.
And though I believe you are correct about the present support of his teammates. My concern is not about a bad game or 2, who cares, it is what happens sometimes; I dont like the trend I see. And here is an unequivocal fact: many to most of his teammates will turn on him like hungry jackels on a deformed baby wildebeast if they consider he's standing in the way of them winning and/or a Back-up would do better. If this realization occurs and he's still in a GB uniform, it will fracture the lockerroom and end any opportunity for a championship even if the QB racks up mind-numbing stats [Source: GB Packers 2000-2007].
Originally Posted by: Barfarn
Listen, I can understand your point, but I think it's WAY overblown and that you are WAY overthinking things (Barfarn? Neeeever!! He would neeeeever do such a thing!)
I'm not going to premise "unequivocal facts" on "what if" scenarios. That's silly. I believe Aaron Rodgers is fine, you don't. So be it. I'm going to continue being thankful that he is the QB of the Packers as are his teammates, as you agreed with. He's been struggling some. It happens. He could be injured some and gritting it out. He still made some incredible throws against the Vikings and there is plenty of reason to believe things will get better.
Of course winning cures everything. If Aaron Rodgers starts sucking as a QB, it's not going to matter if he's the most likeable guy or an asshole. There are lots of nice QBs in the league I'm sure. It ultimately doesn't matter if they suck. Mark Sanchez seems like a nice guy, but I'm sure most of his teammates wish Aaron Rodgers was their QB, even if he is a huge asshole (which I don't agree with in the first place). Players want to win. So your argument seems rhetorical. Of course he needs to play well or eventually the Packers will have to start trying to find a solution. It's no where near that point now though after only three losses and some average QB play (in addition to a lot of other average play throughout the team).
I believe Aaron Rodgers is just as hard on himself for missing throws and such as he may be on WRs for making mental mistakes or running the wrong routes. In fact, I don't think anyone is harder on Aaron Rodgers than Aaron Rodgers, which is likely part of his current issues (in addition to potential injury woes). It's just the way he is, and I'm confident that most players understand that. I think fans have much higher expectations of what their star QB should be than players do.
I'm just not interested in all the anxiety and worrying that can occur if I worry about what MIGHT happen IF certain circumstances occur. Feel free to have at it, though! It's all yours.