Barfarn
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9 years ago
His blocking has gone from not very good to solidly average, maybe even a little above average. He’s certainly blocking better than other 2nd yr TEs of Ebron, Amero, Jenkins, Nicklas; Fedorawitz might be a touch better.

On receiving he’s ascending as well; it’s just being masked by AR’s not-MVP to poor play and this must be adjusted for. Aaron Rodgers is currently #14 in yards; but Culter, Bradford and Mariotta have all passed for more yrds/gm. McCown/Manzell; Rothlesberger/Vick/Jones; Mallett/Hoyer/Yates; Luck/Hasselbeck; Manning/Ostweiler have all passed for more yrds. Romo would have more yards. Aaron Rodgers is effectively #24 in passing yards...TWENTY-FOUR.

I can think of 4 plays off the top of my head: one in the left seam for a 40 yard TD; 2 wheel routes down right sideline for about 20-25 yards where Aaron Rodgers missed RR; that just would not have happened if 2014-AR were playing this year. And yesterday a 20 yard TD falling OOB for a TD called back by penalty. Adjusting for the huge difference in QB play; RR would have several more catches and probably 200, maybe 300, more yards.

RR has made a couple of Knuckleheaded plays/penalties, which disappoints. He only has 1 drop; but I think he should have made a few more tough catches. He’s been just about YAC-less; it does seem a strong gust can knock him down; but this to some degree can be attributed to the routes they have him running. GB is concealing RR’s strength in the middle [They revealed some of those looks w/ Perillo v. Detroit]. Most of his routes are either moving horizontally toward SL [setting up the wheel routes that Aaron Rodgers has been missing on] so he can easily be cut down; or he’s sitting down in a hook zone gap, which don’t lend much to YAC. Hit RR over the middle while he’s moving and you’ll see more Lacy-like YAC.

2014: 478 snaps; 30 Tar; 20 catch; 225yrds; 2 TD w/MVP QB
2015: 528; 53; 36; 253; 5 W/ a Ryan Fitzpatrick impersonator
nerdmann
9 years ago
I also feel like him and Davante are still pressing a bit.

Once they're confident they've "proven" themselves, I think they'll relax into it a bit and let good things happen.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
I have Richard Rodgers (see I can spell his first and last name, send cookie to Green Bay please) on my fantasy team and I can without a doubt tell you ... he is NOT ascending. Stop the lies. Stop the madness. Stop the INSANITY!!!

3.4
1.6
13.90
9.20
0.70

That is not ascending, that is descending. We need Vernon Davis.
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steveishere
9 years ago
He looks like a lineman, I'm not sure if that's on him or that's what the coaches want him at but he's never going to be a very big receiving threat while he's that big. I assume it's the coaches based on his history in college of dropping/gaining weight easily at coaches request.
DakotaT
9 years ago
This guy lacks athleticism, and the last time I checked, a real vital part of being a professional football player. Please boys, show me some stats to debunk my theory.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

This guy lacks athleticism, and the last time I checked, a real vital part of being a professional football player. Please MEN*, show me some stats to debunk my theory.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



4.87 minutes in the 40 dashola
3" vertical jump
NyQuil in the 20 yard shuttle

... but has GREAT hands, catches most everything within reach.


Some statistics to give you warm and fuzzies after 10 games.
36 receptions from 53 targets
263 yards
7.3 yards/reception (-27 yards YAC unconfirmed)
5 TD's
15 First downs
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DoddPower
9 years ago
This guy is only useful as a red zone target. He can be good in that role. But otherwise, he's nothing more than an average #2 TE at best between the 20s.
DakotaT
9 years ago

4.87 minutes in the 40 dashola
3" vertical jump
NyQuil in the 20 yard shuttle

... but has GREAT hands, catches most everything within reach.


Some statistics to give you warm and fuzzies after 10 games.
36 receptions from 53 targets
263 yards
7.3 yards/reception (-27 yards YAC unconfirmed)
5 TD's
15 First downs

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



And do defensive coordinators spend days game planning around him like they did Finley? Does he open the field for other players. Does he even command a double team, ever?

He's like a 3rd string TE we trot out there and try selling as a starter. Ted can do much better in the off season - too bad it's a year too late.
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gotarace
9 years ago
We need one good tight-end drafted in Titletown...but the fondest memories at Tight-end is when we had 2. Mark Chmura and Keith Jackson tore up the league when they played together in Green Bay in route to a Super Bowl XXXI win.

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luigis
9 years ago
Ascending to hell?

He is very irregular, some games he gets all his blocks and catches a couple of TDs, then he disappears, misses his blocks and is replaced by Justin Perillo (!)


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