The Glass Half Full and Half Empty (The Lions Disaster Edition)· Page 2

Cheesey
Preferred Member

9 years ago

Our defense wasn't bad today, but man, our offense sucked.
And take away that kick return, and we get a win.
But we "earned" a loss.
At home against a bad team and we lose.
I think it's over for this season.
I haven't seen anything in the last month to believe otherwise.
Very sad.

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

This team is NEVER out of it.

They never really put anyone away either.

What cost us this game was SPECIAL TEAMS. 10 point swing, between that long return and the self-blocked kick.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

blueleopard
Member

9 years ago

#13

I know pre-season is pre-season, but all I saw was Janis scoring touchdowns. Dumb or not, he does good things when he's put on the field.

James Jones isn't gonna do shit unless they're in the redzone. Put Janis in.

Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings

greengold
Member

9 years ago

#14

I would put the entire defense in the glass half full. Seriously, they played about as well as anyone could have asked. A couple of missed tackles but that happens to *almost every* player in the league.

*Okay, EVERY player NOT defending Richard Rodgers. 🤣

luigis
Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: greengold

But the defense failed when we needed them the most. Detroit's TD should have ended the game, the fact that they missed the XP is hiding the defensive collapse at the end.

Hayward can't cover anybody and Shields & Burnett can't tackle. Palmer & Hyde are two "mistery" players, nobody knows why they see the field on defense. Can Ryan or Banjo be really worst than them? I think that's impossible.

Luis

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: luigis

ST cost us the game imo.

The long kick return and the missed FG. Defense held up pretty well.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

greengold
Member

9 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: luigis

They gave up 18 points. Calvin Johnson held to less than 100 yards and no touchdowns. I wouldn't call that a collapse. Pair that performance with any NFL worthy offense and you have a win.

luigis
Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#18

ST cost us the game imo.

The long kick return and the missed FG. Defense held up pretty well.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

You are probably right. The kick return was the turning point. Without that it was just a punting fest.
I'm still looking for an explanation of what Janis did in that kickoff. I see him running towards the endzone without doing anything I really think he might believe that's how a kick coverage team works.

Luis

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#19

They gave up 18 points. Calvin Johnson held to less than 100 yards and no touchdowns. I wouldn't call that a collapse. Pair that performance with any NFL worthy offense and you have a win.

Originally Posted by: greengold

The defense gave up 12 points.

I look at that other TD as deriving from the long kickoff return. I don't put that on the D. It would have been commendable had they held, but I don't expect that.

In fact, Peppers had the guy covered, but he slipped on that shitty assed fieldturf.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

greengold
Member

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I forgot to mention they come up with the INT inside FG range that saved another 3 or 7 points. Gave it to the offense & special teams to go 3 and out and kick a 25 yard punt.

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