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Every year before the season schedules are announced for my NFC Packers and AFC Raiders, I hope for the perfect BYE Week position. You know. A BYE In week 8 or 9. The half way point is about perfect for an opportunity to heal some injuries and start the second half of the season off at full throttle.

Every good team needs a well placed loss in the same way they need a well placed Bye Week.

A well placed loss is as important as a well placed bye week.

A bye week will allow your team to heal some body injuries, and give them a two week rest.

A well placed loss during the season will allow your team to heal some mental injuries, like being too smug or have an uncritical satisfaction about being undefeated.... Thus... they re-focus on the basics.

6-1 is better for The Packers than 7-0

It is a check up from the neck up.







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6-1 is better for The Packers than 7-0

It is a check up from the neck up.

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



ya to be honest Id rather we have had our loss now then not; especially they way we did. Got a lot of work coaches and players. We got out coached badly. And our players couldnt contain that offense either; the runs to the outside and our corners couldnt cover their dudes.



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9 years ago
I was talking with a Bronco fan during the game.

I was told that The Bronco fans were questioning Peyton Mannings ability to throw the ball.
She said the defense had been carrying the team but the quality of their opponents so far was not the best.

Now I'm reading the other threads and it seems these same questions are being asked about The Packers.

The Broncos silenced their fan base with probably rheir absolutes best and most complete performance in a long time.

Somebody tell me what team would have won in Denver on that particular night?

The Broncos are now being called the absolute best team in The NFL, if that is so, then The Packers now know they have some work to do.

Being The Best after week 7 means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Time to move on.



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Somebody tell me what team would have won in Denver on that particular night.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Our team, if they showed up ready to play for at least 30, like they usually do.

It wouldn't be that big of a deal, but it's been a decade long pattern.

Btw, Vikes are .5 behind us.
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9 years ago

Our team, if they showed up ready to play for at least 30, like they usually do.

It wouldn't be that big of a deal, but it's been a decade long pattern.

Btw, Vikes are .5 behind us.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



They've played the same amount of game, we won one more than them. How does that mean only half game lead? Never understood that lol
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Our team, if they showed up ready to play for at least 30, like they usually do.

It wouldn't be that big of a deal, but it's been a decade long pattern.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I generally like your input, but this perspective always grinds at me.

Nobody plays perfect football. The SB Champs were dealing with questions of whether Tom Brady should be benched 14 months ago after KC kicked the shit out of them. The first post in this thread discusses how the offense of what is no regarded as the best team in football was underwhelming for 6 straight games.

The Packers looked like complete dog shit for 60 min Sunday, I know, but expecting perfection from 46 players for 60 minutes each game just isn't going to happen. The other team is paid too.
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9 years ago

I generally like your input, but this perspective always grinds at me.

Nobody plays perfect football. The SB Champs were dealing with questions of whether Tom Brady should be benched 14 months ago after KC kicked the shit out of them. The first post in this thread discusses how the offense of what is no regarded as the best team in football was underwhelming for 6 straight games.

The Packers looked like complete dog shit for 60 min Sunday, I know, but expecting perfection from 46 players for 60 minutes each game just isn't going to happen. The other team is paid too.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Can understand no one is perfect but I want maximum effort
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9 years ago

They've played the same amount of game, we won one more than them. How does that mean only half game lead? Never understood that lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



They are a full game back.
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Can understand no one is perfect but I want maximum effort

Originally Posted by: Grabacr 



Do you know the Packers didn't give maximum effort? Neither of us really do, but this discredits the Brocons some too.

They kicked our asses. Kudos to them.
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I was talking with a Bronco fan during the game.

I was told that The Bronco fans were questioning Peyton Mannings ability to throw the ball.
She said the defense had been carrying the team but the quality of their opponents so far was not the best.

Now I'm reading the other threads and it seems these same questions are being asked about The Packers.

The Broncos silenced their fan base with probably rheir absolutes best and most complete performance in a long time.

Somebody tell me what team would have won in Denver on that particular night?

The Broncos are now being called the absolute best team in The NFL, if that is so, then The Packers now know they have some work to do.

Being The Best after week 7 means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Time to move on.


Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



The Broncos have the same problems they had in the first 6 weeks. They only looked good because they played against us.
In the same way I don't see Philip Rivers throwing for 500 yards in every game...




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I was talking with a Bronco fan during the game.

I was told that The Bronco fans were questioning Peyton Mannings ability to throw the ball.
She said the defense had been carrying the team but the quality of their opponents so far was not the best.

Now I'm reading the other threads and it seems these same questions are being asked about The Packers.

The Broncos silenced their fan base with probably rheir absolutes best and most complete performance in a long time.

Somebody tell me what team would have won in Denver on that particular night?

The Broncos are now being called the absolute best team in The NFL, if that is so, then The Packers now know they have some work to do.

Being The Best after week 7 means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

Time to move on.


Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Actually being the best never really means anything. What means something is being the winner. Id rather be the worst team to win than the best team to lose.

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The Broncos have the same problems they had in the first 6 weeks. They only looked good because they played against us.
In the same way I don't see Philip Rivers throwing for 500 yards in every game...



Originally Posted by: luigis 



I agree but I would say they only looked good because they played a really great game regardless of the opponent. It just happened to be us. One game didn't fix all their problems. What I mean is maybe during the bye they did fix all their problems but to declare them fixed after one game is a little short sighted. Just like declaring the Packers finished after one game is a little short sighted.

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I agree but I would say they only looked good because they played a really great game regardless of the opponent. It just happened to be us. One game didn't fix all their problems. What I mean is maybe during the bye they did fix all their problems but to declare them fixed after one game is a little short sighted. Just like declaring the Packers finished after one game is a little short sighted.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



sschind I don't think Denver fixed their problems. I think they just exploited our weaknesses. It turns out they had the right personnel for the exploit.

Let's play a game, what do you need to defeat the Packers and how you do it?

When you have the ball:

- You need plenty of crossing routes because every crossing route is a 1st down against us, at least until we stop it.
- You need a smart QB to quickly throw those passes and when we leave the middle open call a run (Rivers and Manning can do that)
- You need a physical WR and if you put it against Casey Hayward they you have yet another option for a gain in every play.
- You need to put somebody with 2 hands against Micah Hyde and you have even another option.

With so many options you can throw the ball before any rush materializes.

When you don't have the ball:

- You need DBs that can stay at least near our WRs so Rodgers won't throw the ball there.
- You need a good 4 men rush to create pressure because our routes take ages to develop.
- You need to keep your safeties down so Rodgers won't throw deep.
- If you see Lacy coming you just crash into him.

So did Denver really played such a great game or just exploited our weaknesses? I think this game was an anomaly, you need a team with several problems to play in exactly the expected way and a smart team with 2 weeks to prepare to just exploit those problems.

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sschind I don't think Denver fixed their problems. I think they just exploited our weaknesses. It turns out they had the right personnel for the exploit.

Let's play a game, what do you need to defeat the Packers and how you do it?

When you have the ball:

- You need plenty of crossing routes because every crossing route is a 1st down against us, at least until we stop it.
- You need a smart QB to quickly throw those passes and when we leave the middle open call a run (Rivers and Manning can do that)
- You need a physical WR and if you put it against Casey Hayward they you have yet another option for a gain in every play.
- You need to put somebody with 2 hands against Micah Hyde and you have even another option.

With so many options you can throw the ball before any rush materializes.

When you don't have the ball:

- You need DBs that can stay at least near our WRs so Rodgers won't throw the ball there.
- You need a good 4 men rush to create pressure because our routes take ages to develop.
- You need to keep your safeties down so Rodgers won't throw deep.
- If you see Lacy coming you just crash into him.

So did Denver really played such a great game or just exploited our weaknesses? I think this game was an anomaly, you need a team with several problems to play in exactly the expected way and a smart team with 2 weeks to prepare to just exploit those problems.

Originally Posted by: luigis 



I know what you were saying and I was agreeing with you. When I said they fixed their problem I was referring to Buckeye and his conversation with the Bronco fan and others who, because of one game, are ready to disregard 6 games worth of problems.

I do disagree with part of your comment though. I do think Denver played a great game. Did they exploit a weakness, they sure as hell did and had a great game because of it. I don't think for one second however that the Broncos have magically found the answer and are going to go undefeated the rest of the way and sail away with the Lombardi. Just like I don't think the Packers are going to fold and go away.

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I know what you were saying and I was agreeing with you. When I said they fixed their problem I was referring to Buckeye and his conversation with the Bronco fan and others who, because of one game, are ready to disregard 6 games worth of problems.

I do disagree with part of your comment though. I do think Denver played a great game. Did they exploit a weakness, they sure as hell did and had a great game because of it. I don't think for one second however that the Broncos have magically found the answer and are going to go undefeated the rest of the way and sail away with the Lombardi. Just like I don't think the Packers are going to fold and go away.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I agree with everything you said.
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