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luigis
Member

9 years ago

The word you are looking for is fear.

Fear of calling a trick play and being embarrased.
Fear of going for it in 4th and 7 down by 19.
Fear of changing the vanilla plays and losing.
Fear of being intercepted.
Fear of fumbling.
Fear of calling a fake or a new play in STs.
Fear of using new formations.

Fear leads to the dark side.

Luis

sschind
Senior Member

9 years ago

#12

Fear leads to the dark side.

Originally Posted by: luigis

Someone should put that in a movie.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#13

I don't know if they need to get creative, rather get basic. this offense is suppose to come from the West Coast Offense? Where are any of the West Coast offense staples?

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#14

I don't know if they need to get creative, rather get basic. this offense is suppose to come from the West Coast Offense? Where are any of the West Coast offense staples?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

It uses West Coast terminology/concepts to describe and delineate Run and Shoot/zone blocking strategies.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

luigis
Member

9 years ago

#15

I don't know if they need to get creative, rather get basic. this offense is suppose to come from the West Coast Offense? Where are any of the West Coast offense staples?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

The last authentic west coast offense was run by Rich Gannon.
Those days are gone

Luis

DoddPower
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#16

Agreed. He had happy feet in the pocket too. Looked like Matt Cassel back there. This was easily the worst game I have ever seen him play.

I place more blame on offensive line. Those guys are very overrated and just continually lost ground to Denver's defensive line.

Originally Posted by: millertime

Exactly. Hit a QB early and he'll remember it all game. That's they key to beating any QB, including Tom Brady. It's no surprise Rodgers played poorly. I'm not sure how anyone would have played well against that pressure and coverage. Crowd noise was a factor, as well. I wish Lambeau was as loud as it was in Denver.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#17

If the OL is not going to give Rodgers enough time for his WR do execute double moves, then he needs to hit guys in the flat or on drags. Rodgers has a wicked pump fake and if he can time it with his WR on a curl pump fake double move to an out or down the seam, the CB (50/50) will bite and it'll be a big play. I can't recall Rodgers trying a pump fake nearly as much this season as last season.

A flag route from next to the TE is where I think Jeff Janis could open things up underneath because of his speed. If Janis gets behind his guy, all Rodgers has to do is lead him and let Janis do the rest.

Here's an image that shows WR route tree which saves me from drawing it myself. :D

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#18

What flag route from next to the TE is where I think Jeff Janis could open things up underneath because of his speed. If Janis gets behind his guy, all Rodgers has to do is lead him and let Janis do the rest.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I think they should motion Janis around and send him deep and also use him to create obstacles for Cobb or Jones coverage. Motion will give him separation from Press coverage and easier separation and put his DB behind the ball to begin with.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#19

Check that out. Over a week later and someone in the media has picked up on the same thing we did and I mentioned in the opening post.

The more you look at them, the more you see how unhelpful Green Bay’s route concepts are for Rodgers

Doug Farrar wrote:

yooperfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

This is the reason I simply can't believe they haven't tried something utilizing Janis' speed.
Even something as simple as using him as a decoy.
Somebody would have to cover him deep, and if they don't, we have all seen him be able to catch the ball and score touchdowns.

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