Bigbyfan
9 years ago
Like others have been saying. The salary cap makes this deal impractical. The Packers would have to make cuts at other positions to be able to afford him.

"But Bigbyfan, JJ Watt is one of the best players in the league and would be worth it. Ted Thomason is just being his typical cheap self!!!"

Yes he is great. Please tell me how much Watt is helping the Texans win right now. Please tell me how he has made that defense into a force.... it's okay, I'll wait.
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greengold
9 years ago

Like others have been saying. The salary cap makes this deal impractical. The Packers would have to make cuts at other positions to be able to afford him.

"But Bigbyfan, JJ Watt is one of the best players in the league and would be worth it. Ted Thomason is just being his typical cheap self!!!"

Yes he is great. Please tell me how much Watt is helping the Texans win right now. Please tell me how he has made that defense into a force.... it's okay, I'll wait.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



I agree, you can't just give up all your draft picks and let other high priced defensive players walk. The recipe against Houston's defense is just doubleteam JJ Watt. Nobody else on that team can make a play.

I don't think there was any purpose to that article other than to generate website hits. Teams just don't trade the face of the franchise. And picks in the 30's aren't even considered first round picks to a team like the Texans.

Zero2Cool
9 years ago
The article was trades a certain someone would like to see. I'm not sure why folks always gotta get all sensitive and run the "it'll never happen" gambit. Seriously, lighten up and toss it around. Have some fun, jeepers.

If the Packers were to trade for J.J. Watt I would prefer them trade Clay Matthews III straight up. Watt is about three years younger, by all accounts has two healthy hamstrings and has started every game of his career. The salary cap should nearly be a wash, although I'm just guessing on that. And I still believe that a dominate DL will improve the LB which will improve the Secondary.

I would also throw in Scott Tolzien to give Texans a more legitimate player at Quarterback.


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nerdmann
9 years ago
We proved last year we don't need him.

We just need to stop shitting ourselves, at some point.
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Mucky Tundra
9 years ago

The article was trades a certain someone would like to see. I'm not sure why folks always gotta get all sensitive and run the "it'll never happen" gambit. Seriously, lighten up and toss it around. Have some fun, jeepers.

If the Packers were to trade for J.J. Watt I would prefer them trade Clay Matthews III straight up. Watt is about three years younger, by all accounts has two healthy hamstrings and has started every game of his career. The salary cap should nearly be a wash, although I'm just guessing on that. And I still believe that a dominate DL will improve the LB which will improve the Secondary.

I would also throw in Scott Tolzien to give Texans a more legitimate player at Quarterback.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



JJ Watt for Matthews would be something I could get behind though I'd imagine there'd be some other pieces involved.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nyrpack
9 years ago
love to see him as a packer, however we all know ted would never give up draft choices, and for good reason, look at all the picks that are starters here !!
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steveishere
9 years ago
Every year NFL media talks up these big name trade deadline deals and every year neither the Packers or any other team makes any deals.
Bigbyfan
9 years ago
I'd trade a first round pick for Joe Thomas in a second. I would then put him on a plane and have him play tonight
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greengold
9 years ago

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Well, don't tell it to me George, tell it to the new Assistant to the General Manager. 😁

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