Zero2Cool
9 years ago
We have a pair of new teams in the top five this week. How's this for silly? Panthers win and lose two spots and their opponent the Seahawks rises seven spots. I was tempted to drop them a peg or two, but I want these to be more data/formula based than spite based. 🙂

The Texans and Seahawks jumped up the most with their +7 improvement followed by Dolphins who climbed +6. The biggest floppers were Jaguars losing -7 spots with Redskins and Titans both moving -6 back.


  1. Green Bay Packers 0
  2. Arizona Cardinals 0
  3. New England Patriots 0
  4. Cincinnati Bengals 2
  5. New York Jets 2
  6. Buffalo Bills -2
  7. Carolina Panthers -2
  8. San Diego Chargers 0
  9. Seattle Seahawks 7
  10. Pittsburgh Steelers 5
  11. New York Giants -1
  12. Atlanta Falcons -1
  13. Cleveland Browns 4
  14. Denver Broncos -2
  15. Tennessee Titans -6
  16. Oakland Raiders -3
  17. Philadelphia Eagles 1
  18. Dallas Cowboys 1
  19. Minnesota Vikings -5
  20. Houston Texans 7
  21. Kansas City Chiefs 2
  22. Miami Dolphins 6
  23. New Orleans Saints 1
  24. Indianapolis Colts 1
  25. St. Louis Rams -3
  26. Washington Redskins -6
  27. San Francisco 49ers 4
  28. Jacksonville Jaguars -7
  29. Baltimore Ravens -3
  30. Chicago Bears -1
  31. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -1
  32. Detroit Lions 0


I'm feeling Jets over Patriots this week for my upset. The Patriots are 9.5 favorites, but the Jets and Dolphins seem to always give Patriots a run for their money and I think there is going to be a Patriot let down. Bonus upset pick, 49ers over Seahawks who are 6 point favorites.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Apparently you haven't done your "pick'em" yet, because it's 100% for the Patriots at this point.

Yeah, that is interesting about the Seahawks - they choke it away and you raise them up? It would really be interesting to see the nuts and bolts of your ranking system. Yours looks better this week than any previous although still way off in the bottom half.

I'll be back with mine later.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Apparently you haven't done your "pick'em" yet, because it's 100% for the Patriots at this point.

Yeah, that is interesting about the Seahawks - they choke it away and you raise them up? It would really be interesting to see the nuts and bolts of your ranking system. Yours looks better this week than any previous although still way off in the bottom half.

I'll be back with mine later.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I usually make my picks on the weekend. Thursday's pick is already in. I don't always follow my rankings when I make picks. If I'm iffy on the match-up, then I do. But I am only showing overall rank. I have an offensive and defensive ranking for each team too. 🙂 As for the nuts and bolts, I'm sure the formula's (I don't have time to teach you Advanced Statistics bahahaha) I'm using on the stats pales in comparison to your dart board approach of rankings!
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

I usually make my picks on the weekend. Thursday's pick is already in. I don't always follow my rankings when I make picks. If I'm iffy on the match-up, then I do. But I am only showing overall rank. I have an offensive and defensive ranking for each team too. 🙂 As for the nuts and bolts, I'm sure the formula's (I don't have time to teach you Advanced Statistics bahahaha) I'm using on the stats pales in comparison to your dart board approach of rankings!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I think you went out to the barn and got a large pail of something hahahaha.

As I said last week, I tend to start out with who was expected to be good or bad before the season and then adjust, but not in too extreme a way. I also often deviate from my own rankings in the Pick 'Em - maybe why I am so far down there.

1 Packers
2 Patriots
3 Cardinals
4 Bengals
5 Seahawks
6 Broncos
7 Falcons
8 Panthers
9 Steelers
10 Jets
11 Bills
12 Chargers
13 Cowboys
14 Eagles
15 Niners
16 Ravens
17 Rams
18 Giants
19 Vikings
20 Colts
21 Chiefs
22 Bears
23 Saints
24 Lions
25 Texans
26 Redskins
27 Browns
28 Raiders
29 Titans
30 Dolphins
31 Jaguars
32 Buccaneers


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beast
9 years ago
Maybe not perfect, but I think it looks like a decent algorithm.

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    Zero2Cool
    9 years ago
    Some teams in that bottom 10 of yours have me scratching my head, lol.
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    beast
    9 years ago

    Some teams in that bottom 10 of yours have me scratching my head, lol.

    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



    Based on the differences in our list, I'm guessing your referring too Chargers, Titans and Chiefs.

    Like I said, I think it was a decent algorithm, the algorithm might need some improvements still and I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chargers being the big movers going up on this list in coming weeks. Most algorithms have flaws, and the Chargers could be falling into one at the moment in this one.

    As for the Titans and Chiefs, I'm not sure they're that good of teams.



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    texaspackerbacker
    9 years ago

    Some teams in that bottom 10 of yours have me scratching my head, lol.

    Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



    hahahahahaha Now you know how I feel about your rankings - I do agree with what you say about his, though.




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    beast
    9 years ago

    hahahahahaha Now you know how I feel about your rankings - I do agree with what you say about his, though.

    Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



    This coming from two guys that have a team with four losses in their top ten, over a currently undefeated team (or in one cases top in their five over two currently undefeated teams)...

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    texaspackerbacker
    9 years ago

    This coming from two guys that have a team with four losses in their top ten, over a currently undefeated team (or in one cases top in their five over two currently undefeated teams)...

    [zipmouth]

    Originally Posted by: beast 



    So you're saying you'd pick Carolina to beat Seattle? And Tampa Bay to beat 8 other teams? And the Chiefs to lose to ...... everybody? hahahahahaha

    As I have said, it's all about who can beat who(m). You better recheck your algorithm hahahahaha, cuz it sure doesn't come close to doing that.

    At least you made an effort, though. A LOT of others haven't got the testicular fortitude.


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