Dulak
9 years ago

Some people are freaking out over this 500 yards stuff but Rivers threw 65 freaking passes and his average wasn't anything special. He had almost as many incompletions as Rodgers had attempts. SD also couldn't run the ball. Their last 4 possessions (starting halfway through the 3rd quarter) ended in Punt, FG, Punt, Turnover on Downs. You can cry about yards all you want and the defense needs to do a better job getting off the field for sure but they were far from bad and came up clutch when it mattered which is a big thing they've been lacking in recent years.

The thing that bugged me about it was Capers insistence on blitzing constantly just for the sake of blitzing. That works great against QBs that aren't good at making quick decisions but good QBs always have somewhere to go with the ball when you blitz them. Their O-line was weak which is a great opportunity to let off on the blitzes and let 4 guys get at them. We needed the extra men in coverage more than we needed to throw more bodies at their busted line. I don't know what Capers was thinking especially because Rivers has historically been very good against blitzes. We needed to make him hold the ball a little longer because we have the horses to get after QBs even without blitzing.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I Agree with you - the chargers and especially rivers did an excellent job vs our rush compared to what it does to other QBs. We should of put one more guy on their receivers.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

Randall Cobb, Eddie Lacy, Davante Adams, Morgan Burnett are not weak contributors. When they get healthy, things will get better.

Originally Posted by: azrunning 



Just to be clear, Cobb is back playing - if not 100%, close to it - he is not who I'm talking about.

Lacy of course is a contributor, but I'm increasingly having the opinion that his type of RB is not as valuable as somebody like Starks ...... but Lacy was not who I had in mind either. Sparks are gonna fly around here when Lacy's rookie contract is up, and we either sign him for big money or let him go - I hereby go on record as being for the latter.

Burnett, yeah, he's not exactly a weak contributor, but what I've seen from Hyde at least equals Burnett. Anyway, he wasn't who I had in mind either.

Adams, yeah - weaker than his replacements IMO

RAJI - the primary one I was thinking of

Nick Perry - better this season, but still not doing as well as the people who replaced him


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azrunning
9 years ago


Burnett, yeah, he's not exactly a weak contributor, but what I've seen from Hyde at least equals Burnett. Anyway, he wasn't who I had in mind either.

Adams, yeah - weaker than his replacements IMO

RAJI - the primary one I was thinking of

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Hyde was toasted many times against San Diego on Sunday. I like him but I think the defense is better with Burnett. I also prefer Adams to his replacements and from the sounds of it, so does QB1. These are differences of our opinions though.

However if Raji was the one that you were thinking was a weak contributor, that is just wrong. He is having a monster season and is much better at the nose than Guion.
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Smokey
9 years ago

The Packers faced their toughest challenge yet this season against the Chargers. Yes, players had to step up and play in place of some starters and yes mistakes were made. Rivers performance had many of us on the edge of our seats as he delivered a fine performance.

Despite all of the less than great Packer level plays, there were also some brilliant plays. In addition, valuable experience was gained by rookies, who performed well (mostly). They will benefit from this game as will the Packers.

This win against a strong opponent has shown perhaps the best quality that champions all have, and that is Heart. I saw players that refused to give up. While much shall be learned from this victory, the greatest lesson to be celebrated has to be that the Packers have the Heart needed to carry them to a SB victory.


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Originally Posted by: Smokey 



I'm quite sure that the Packers are well aware of everything that needs to be addressed following their victory against the Chargers. The bye week will help to heal many that have suffered injuries, and to learn from the experience. As a result, IMO the Packers will emerge from the bye with an even stronger team.

Best of all, the Packers have clearly demonstrated they possess the HEART that all champions require. Let's be happy that they are 6 -0 and will enter the remainder of the season as the team most likely to have Home Field Advantage in the playoffs.

Let's all try to be more positive, please.



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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
This season has been epic. I can't wait to see what happens next.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Raji is NOT having monster season by any comparison except to the monstrous seasons he has had most of his career after his first year or so.

True, this may be an epic season by the time it is over. There is a long way to go, though, starting with 2 straight other unbeatens. Up to now, we have taken care of business, but really not anything all that unexpected. I could actually see us winning out all the way to and through the Super Bowl, and THAT would be epic.
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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Right now Raji is in my top 5 of most impactful players on our team. I really hope he can stay healthy down the stretch.
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gbguy20
9 years ago



Let's all try to be more positive, please.[/b]


Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Do I need to remind you how you were one of the most negative on this forum before the season started?
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Smokey
9 years ago

Do I need to remind you how you were one of the most negative on this forum before the season started?

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Your right, I did not like the DB's that Ted Thompson chose in the Draft. A 500+ yd. performance by Philip Rivers has done little to change that opinion. Luck played a role in that Packer win.
Going forward the Packers will face ever stiffer competition. Yes, they will win the NFC North, and post the best season record in the conference. Yet the playoffs will, IMO, show me to be either right or wrong. It just boils my blood to see better players passed by in a draft, in favor of picking players from schools that don't face the best in competition. It's all to easy to be a college star when your team plays Slippery Rock or West Toledo State.

Players from quality schools like Florida State, Oregon, Ohio State, or Michigan demand more money and Ted Thompson knows it. He banks on the less well known players to raise their level of play. Some do, but he is gambling on being right. When he is right he is happy to take the credit, yet Teflon Ted is not to be found when he picks wrong. The blame falls on the coaches, or bad luck, or anyone but him. He was the biggest cause for the Favre fallout, but the blame landed on #4 instead. Aaron Rodgers and the Packers could have waited one more year, but Ted Thompson forced the issue. Yes, Aaron Rodgers proved a good thing, and TT's good luck saved him. He counted on Favre's pride to not take a back-up QB spot to get his way, and it did.
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Mucky Tundra
9 years ago


Players from quality schools like Florida State, Oregon, Ohio State, or Michigan demand more money and Ted Thompson knows it. He banks on the less well known players to raise their level of play.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Rookies entering the league have been handcuffed by the recent labor agreement

NFL rookie contracts have changed how agents do business with players 

The 2011 CBA took a sledgehammer to the old rookie compensation model. Owners thought top rookies made too much, and so did veteran player leadership at the union.

The new system eliminates the vast majority of negotiating required:contract value and bonus amounts are predetermined. There are very few negotiable items: offset language (the ability for the team to recover guaranteed money if the player is released and signs elsewhere), bonus payment terms, roster bonus allocations and other miscellaneous structural issues. Deals are negotiated within hours (Jameis Winston’s deal was negotiated the evening he was taken with the first pick).



In short, Ted doesn't even have to try and lowball anybody because the NFL rookie wage system already does this for him.
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
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