Rockmolder
16 years ago
After one of my quick links didn't work due to copyright claims on youtube (yet again), I posted this.

Music companies don't seem to understand that youtube it actually a great platform for free publicity.

I mean, no one wants to sit behind his PC to keep pressing play on a youtube clip, they want a CD. What better way to hear about music than youtube.... especially with an 80s hit that nearly doesn't get broadcasted anymore.

I especially love it when they remove 'Greatest ... hits' which has just 20 seconds of music from the artists.... I wonder who does their PR and Marketing over there.



Now, I wrote this out of, well, annoyance, yet, when I re-read it, it actually made some sense. You guys all have alot more experience on these things than I do, so am I missing something here? Not only do they seem to be destroying their free publicity, if they go on like this, they'll take youtube with them.
dfosterf
16 years ago
This is going to be a terrible answer to your question, because I have never experienced the link problem you describe. I did want to say this, though. I suspect that many in my age group don't bother to contemplate a subscription to an online music service, thinking that it is geared towards the younger lads and lasses. (I'm 53)

This is a huge mistake on your part, if that is your inclination/thought process. (Speaking to my fellow geezers, here) Remember how we used to spend hours and hours transferring tunes from our LP's to cassette? By the time we got done, we were tired of the music we transferred! (Not to mention the relative difficulty in finding the actual track on the cassette if we got the urge to hear a particular song.)

Last Christmas I purchased an MP3 player for my wife. She is a music nut, and we have literally thousands of CD's in my home, 99% I have never heard of. My thinking at the time was that she would be transferring all of her esoteric crap onto an MP3 player in order to listen to it at her work.

As almost an afterthought, I subscribed to Rhapsody, in order that she could also download music to her MP3 player. I think I pay either 13. or 15. dollars a month. This has turned out to be one of the smartest moves I have ever made. Not only has this household stopped buying CD's (on what seemed like an hourly basis to this cheapskate), my lifetime record collection (the one in my mind, if you know what I mean) is at my fingertips, subject to whatever mood strikes me.

To those that are unfamiliar with these subscription services, regardless of your age/musical tastes...trust me, they are an incredible value. No, you do not need an MP3 player to get "value" from them. I personally do not even own one, still. What is especially awesome is the ease with which you can find SO MANY different versions of the same song.

Sorry for not answering any of your question, Detlev, but hopefully I did answer one for some of my fellow geezers...
zombieslayer
16 years ago
Rock - I agree with you completely and I'll tell you why from my own experience.

If I like something, I will buy it to support the artist. I want to see them get paid for their work.

I buy a lot of music. No longer CDs, because they're a pain to store. Say what you want about mp3s, I'm a former professional musician (no, I never made that much), I can't tell the difference. Maybe my ears are shot. Who knows. I just can't.

An mp3 is a pretty good format. It's small. It's convenient. It's open. What I can't stand is when someone sends me a wmf. I get really pissed and give them a lecture. mp3s only.

dfosterf subscribes to Rhapsody. I think that's great. Every time someone grabs something from Rhapsody, the artist gets paid. I happen to subscribe to eMusic.com which is a service like Rhapsody but independent artists only. Like Rhapsody, every time someone downloads, the artist gets paid. When there's something I can't find on eMusic (which is common because like I said, independent artists only), I buy them from iTunes or Amazonmp3.

About half of the mp3s I buy are things I heard of somewhere else, went to youtube to check them out, and decided to buy them. Had youtube not existed, a lot of these people wouldn't be getting my money. I'm sure I'm not the only one who does this.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Rockmolder
16 years ago
That's pretty much excactly what I mean ZS.

Oh, and I put down CDs there, but I meant non-streaming music. What I wanted to say is that people don't constantly want to go to a website to listen to music.

I do, however, listen on youtube to particular songs which I like enough to sometimes listen to online, but don't really want to pay money for (Like the one I made that comment on). Maybe that's what they're trying to stop?
zombieslayer
16 years ago

That's pretty much excactly what I mean ZS.

Oh, and I put down CDs there, but I meant non-streaming music. What I wanted to say is that people don't constantly want to go to a website to listen to music.

I do, however, listen on youtube to particular songs which I like enough to sometimes listen to online, but don't really want to pay money for (Like the one I made that comment on). Maybe that's what they're trying to stop?

"Rockmolder" wrote:



The truth is some of these execs have their heads up their you know wheres.

Jack Valenti, the ass clown that gave us our motion picture rating system (where you can see a decapitation and someone literally getting blown up in a PG movie but a hoo hoo will make a movie R, great values there), and his cronies were the people for the whole copyright paranoia. They have absolutely no business sense. Keep in mind, Valenti spent his career fighting the VCR because he said it would put the movie industry out of business. No, not joking. Here's an exact quote for you:

I say to you that the VCR is to the American film producer and the American public as the Boston strangler is to the woman home alone.

He was convinced it would put the movie industry out of business and instead, it made it larger than ever. He was also against the cassette tape because it would destroy the music industry. What really happened was people would make cassettes for their friends, then their friends would be exposed to ever more music and sales of new music went through the roof. Cassettes were the best thing that ever happened to the music industry. It was free advertising.

As is youtube. Now, independent bands can put videos of themselves on youtube and bypass the industry. That's what's driving the music industry nuts. They're realizing that youtube, myspace, and facebook combined with ever cheaper technologies for producing music are making the industry obsolete while artists are making more money than ever.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Rockmolder
16 years ago
I still can't get my mind around the fact that Big Western Music/Group/Company or something does not get how much free advertising you get from youtube, while Sony for instance puts up all their own music. Especially on 80s music, which someone like me would never have found without youtube.

You'd say they would have people for this. People who understand that they can make alot of money out of this....
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    wpr (8h) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
    Martha Careful (11h) : I would have otherwise admirably served
    dfosterf (13h) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
    dfosterf (13h) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
    dfosterf (13h) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
    dfosterf (13h) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
    dfosterf (13h) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
    dfosterf (13h) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
    dfosterf (13h) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
    dfosterf (14h) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
    dfosterf (14h) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
    Zero2Cool (19h) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
    Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
    Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
    beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
    Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
    Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing
    Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.
    dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup
    dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw
    dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.
    Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.
    Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.
    wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.
    Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?
    Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women
    Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂
    Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married
    Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : Well he can always ask his brother for pointers
    Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : Bo Melton taking some reps at CB as well as WR
    Zero2Cool (10-Jun) : key transactions coming today at 3pm that will consume more cap in 2025
    Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jaire played in just 34 of a possible 68 games since the start of the 2021 season
    Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : reported, but not expected to practice
    Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : Jenkins has REPORTED for mandatory camp
    Zero2Cool (9-Jun) : I really thought he'd play for Packers.
    buckeyepackfan (9-Jun) : Packers releasing Jaire Alexander.
    Mucky Tundra (8-Jun) : (Context: he wants his defense to create turnovers)
    Mucky Tundra (8-Jun) : Giants DC Shane Bowen tells players to “be a damn pirate."
    dfosterf (6-Jun) : Semper fi !
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    23h / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

    23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    18-Jun / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    15-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    14-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

    14-Jun / Community Welcome! / dfosterf

    13-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    13-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Adam

    12-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.