nerdmann
9 years ago

Free plays: How Aaron Rodgers and the Packers' offense make defenses pay

Continue Reading @ Rob Demovsky 

Rob Demovsky wrote:



Man this shit is AWESOME.

First of all, Aaron has deadly accuracy down the field. Giving him a free play is like conceding points.

Second, it slows down the pass rush, which helps both of our tackles. Frankly they're both weak, so they can use all the help they can get. If the D is trying to get a jump, BAM! Free play. If they hang back and wait for the snap, Aaron's running the play clock, reading their D and adjusting.

They study film to see if teams run or jog off the field between plays, guaranteed.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Yeah, this stuff is helpful, and it seems like the Packers exploit it better than anybody else. I just hope that come next off-season or even sooner if it is just a matter of policy and not rules, that they don't decide to change things. What would we all be saying if this was being done TO us instead of BY us? It ain't fair; The whistle should blow and stop the play. To be clear, that's not my position, but as ol' Bob McGinn would say, "others are saying ......"
Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Now that they have been so successful getting players to jump, they need to take advantage of that in other ways. As Defenses are ready for the hard count and concentrating on not jumping use the opportunity by snapping the ball instead and watch the Oline dominate opening holes for Lacy and Starks. Hit them with that a few times and they will be ready to be hard counted again.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
+1
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

Yeah, this stuff is helpful, and it seems like the Packers exploit it better than anybody else. I just hope that come next off-season or even sooner if it is just a matter of policy and not rules, that they don't decide to change things. What would we all be saying if this was being done TO us instead of BY us? It ain't fair; The whistle should blow and stop the play. To be clear, that's not my position, but as ol' Bob McGinn would say, "others are saying ......"

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



If the play doesn't get blown dead it is the defenders fault IMO. My HS coach told us, if you jump make sure you hit somebody. These guys jump and stop and backup where if they kept going and either had a free path to the QB or make contact with the Oline, the play would be flagged dead. Otherwise the play is not stopped.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
+1
luigis
9 years ago
I have a strange concern about these free plays: Every single time we have a free play and Rodgers throws a long "risky" pass it is caught for a big gain. So I wonder why don't we throw those "risky" passes more often in non-free plays.

I know Aaron is allergic to ints but I wonder how many more yards would we get in average at the price of for a couple of ints.

Of course all this doesn't matter if the other team is pathetic as were the Chiefs (out of character) or Bears.
Luis
olds70supreme
9 years ago

I have a strange concern about these free plays: Every single time we have a free play and Rodgers throws a long "risky" pass it is caught for a big gain. So I wonder why don't we throw those "risky" passes more often in non-free plays.

I know Aaron is allergic to ints but I wonder how many more yards would we get in average at the price of for a couple of ints.

Of course all this doesn't matter if the other team is pathetic as were the Chiefs (out of character) or Bears



My take: The risky plays are more successful on these broken plays because the defense reacts slowly when the ball is snapped, maybe because they think the play is going to be whistled dead. This means the pass rush sucks giving Rodgers more time to look for opportunities, and more time that the opposing team DB's (who also may have reacted slowly) have to cover the receivers. Normal plays aren't like that, you could try to go deep all you want but the pass rush and dbs are going to be a lot better. Also, keep in mind that the penalty for going for it all during non-busted plays isn't just turnover (although that is bad), it is also the loss of down that even an incomplete pass will cost for the risky play.

All that being said, I'm not sure we don't already have a significant number of big plays, only some of which are attributed to the free plays.
blank
+3
civic
9 years ago
Green Bay had another quarterback who was pretty good at getting free plays and taking shots down the field.
blank
DakotaT
9 years ago
Rodgers doesn't throw jump balls which is why he has a 4:1 interception ratio, the greatest in the history of NFL quarterbacking.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
9 years ago

Rodgers doesn't throw jump balls which is why he has a 4:1 interception ratio, the greatest in the history of NFL quarterbacking.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



He knows James Jones is gonna come down with it. JJ hasn't been open on any of those TDs, as I recall.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

If the play doesn't get blown dead it is the defenders fault IMO. My HS coach told us, if you jump make sure you hit somebody. These guys jump and stop and backup where if they kept going and either had a free path to the QB or make contact with the Oline, the play would be flagged dead. Otherwise the play is not stopped.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



All True - I just hope they don't change the rules. They didn't used to blow it dead on false starts; It's not much of a stretch for the rules committee to do the same on the D jumping.
Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Mucky Tundra (7h) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.
    Mucky Tundra (7h) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!
    Zero2Cool (14h) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.
    Zero2Cool (14h) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.
    Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
    Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
    Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
    wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
    Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
    Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
    Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
    Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
    beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
    Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
    Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing
    Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.
    dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup
    dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw
    dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.
    Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.
    Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    17h / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    4-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

    1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

    23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    18-Jun / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    15-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    14-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.