Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Ha, come on now. He gave his opinion, that's cool. I have no issues with folks disputing the POWER RANKINGS I post with my name attached to. Bring it on!! I have history on my side. 🙂
UserPostedImage
TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago
It is sort of like the draft. The first five from both Zero and Texas I think are pretty good. After that is a bit of a free-for-all and a crap shoot.
beast
9 years ago

  1. Arizona Cardinals 1
  2. Green Bay Packers -1
  3. Buffalo Bills 6
  4. New England Patriots 3
  5. Cincinnati Bengals 3
  6. Denver Broncos 0
  7. Tennessee Titans -4
  8. Carolina Panthers 3
  9. Dallas Cowboys -5
  10. San Diego Chargers 6
  11. New York Jets -6
  12. Atlanta Falcons 3
  13. New York Giants 8
  14. Pittsburgh Steelers 4
  15. Oakland Raiders 7
  16. Minnesota Vikings -4

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Just some general questions Zero

why do you have the Bills one spot ahead of the Patriots when the Patriots beat the Bills?

Also how are you doing with the loss of QBs?

Falcons beat Cowboys (with out Romo play) but Cowboys are listed higher.

I'm surprised the Steelers are listed so low, unless losing Big Ben has something to do with it...

And after a strong win why did the Vikings lose spots in the power ranking (other than the fact they're the Vikings)



UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Just some general questions Zero

why do you have the Bills one spot ahead of the Patriots when the Patriots beat the Bills?

Also how are you doing with the loss of QBs?

Falcons beat Cowboys (with out Romo play) but Cowboys are listed higher.

I'm surprised the Steelers are listed so low, unless losing Big Ben has something to do with it...

And after a strong win why did the Vikings lose spots in the power ranking (other than the fact they're the Vikings)


Originally Posted by: beast 


1, did you know the Bills are ranked 1st in both team offensive and team defensive rushing?
2, depends on how efficient the quarterback plays
3, the rankings are not week to week, but an accumulation of week one through this week.
4, the Steelers are not that efficient of a team even with Ben and are going to be less efficient with Mike Vick. You will see. :D
5, please see #3

Maybe Ray-Ray is on to something and the title of the rankings should be revisited. Perhaps Zero's Team Efficiency Rankings is more apt?
UserPostedImage
beast
9 years ago

1, did you know the Bills are ranked 1st in both team offensive and team defensive rushing?
2, depends on how efficient the quarterback plays
3, the rankings are not week to week, but an accumulation of week one through this week.
4, the Steelers are not that efficient of a team even with Ben and are going to be less efficient with Mike Vick. You will see. :D
5, please see #3

Maybe Ray-Ray is on to something and the title of the rankings should be revisited. Perhaps Zero's Team Efficiency Rankings is more apt?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


1) No I didn't know that about the Bills... but I do know it's called "A passing league" for some reason
2) Yeah I was just looking at the different placement of the Cowboys and Steelers whom both lost their starting QB for a while
3) Yeah Power Rankings has a different idea in my head other than accumulation of the entire season.... when I read power rankings I think of a list of "who's hot; who's not" type of thing which is normally based on what QB looked very good in their last two games BS.
4) I haven't followed the Steelers that closely but it seemed like their offense was hot in week 2 and 3. And somehow the Steelers (when Big Ben is healthy) normally seem to get wins (when they're not facing the Patriots that is). ... and PS... I don't trust Vick much... but healthy Big Ben seem pretty good.
5) Vikings defense is looking pretty good and Peterson running the ball...


UserPostedImage
dhazer
9 years ago

You keep going on and on about data analysis. WHAT ridiculous data gives you the ridiculous conclusion that Seattle is the 19th "most powerful" team in the NFL?

I asked you before and I don't think you ever answered, do you make your picks based on these silly "power" rankings?

Maybe you should call them "Data Analysis Rankings". Power means # 19 would lose to numbers 1-18, etc.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I in turn ask you why you say Seattle is so high on your list? They are 1-2 their defense is not the defense of old and their offense is just not clicking. Their o-line is in shambles and they have no running game right now. Their lone win was over a chicago team that was missing their starting qb and main wr and still only trailed 6-0 at halftime.

So please explain to me how they are in the top 4, the cowboys in the top 10 as they stand right now. I know your going off reputation and what the media says but then again you have a 2-1 and soon to be 3-1 raider team ranked as the 29th best team.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
DoddPower
9 years ago

I in turn ask you why you say Seattle is so high on your list? They are 1-2 their defense is not the defense of old and their offense is just not clicking. Their o-line is in shambles and they have no running game right now. Their lone win was over a chicago team that was missing their starting qb and main wr and still only trailed 6-0 at halftime.

So please explain to me how they are in the top 4, the cowboys in the top 10 as they stand right now. I know your going off reputation and what the media says but then again you have a 2-1 and soon to be 3-1 raider team ranked as the 29th best team.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I largely agree, but I still think Seattle will be a force late in the season and in the playoffs. Their defense is still very good, and their offense should continue to mature and ultimately be decent. They will be capable of winning games in January. Having Chancellor (sp?) back helps.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
hahahahaha Are we having fun yet?

I pictured myself as the harrassee, not the harrasser, but a big whatever to that. Mostly, I offered a counter which seemed to make a LOT more sense and asked some questions, virtually NONE of which got answered.

I like that idea of calling it some kind of "team efficiency" ranking or whatever. POWER means the ability to defeat the less POWERFUL - no more, no less.

RaiderPride, anyone who challenges me in politics or whatever knows, I usually strike back hard to posters who have posted like you did. However, the fact is, ranking your precious Raiders 29th may have been unjustified, and I can empathize with having my favorites disrespected - as most Badger and Big Ten in general fans can understand. The fact is, by the time I got to the bottom of the rankings, I realized I only had 30 teams, and I had a helluva time figuring out who I left out. So I was getting pissed off and tired, and just kinda threw the last few in there. I still don't see the Raiders as all that great though. There are maybe 5 or 6 or 7 teams I might expect them to beat - which I guess makes them what? 26, 25, or 24? As for Seattle, I have no "love" at all for them. However, common sense says, they would be expected to beat just about ANY team in the league - except the Packers, and maybe the Pats and Cards. And it would be a crapshoot even against those teams. Could you possibly disagree with that? Could anybody? And THAT is what POWER is all about.

So, as Zero said to me, to paraphrase, if anybody has any disagreement, let him have the balls to post his own rankings - and to designate them either as POWER or some other silly shit rankings.
Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
I agree with the part about posting rankings. I think it'd be cool for everyone to do it! :D

I like that idea of calling it some kind of "team efficiency" ranking or whatever. POWER means the ability to defeat the less POWERFUL - no more, no less.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 


I never really considered POWER rankings meaning they'd overtake those below them without question. I always felt POWER was more OPINION than anything else. I've read a lot of power rankings and they are rarely ever predicated on anything substantial. It's always opinion and value weighted towards whomever is hot at that time.


UserPostedImage
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

I agree with the part about posting rankings. I think it'd be cool for everyone to do it! :D

I never really considered POWER rankings meaning they'd overtake those below them without question. I always felt POWER was more OPINION than anything else. I've read a lot of power rankings and they are rarely ever predicated on anything substantial. It's always opinion and value weighted towards whomever is hot at that time.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



True, I guess, it's an opinion, but ultimately it is what it is - somebody has the POWER to be a strong bet to beat somebody else. People may differ on how that is/who has the most POWER, but what set me off was calling it a "Power Ranking" and then basing it on something else - NOT who has the POWER to beat who. (oops whom hahahaha)


Expressing the Good Normal Views of Good Normal Americans.
If Anything I Say Smacks of Extremism, Please Tell Me EXACTLY What.
Fan Shout
beast (5h) : Seems like he was just pissed because he was no longer the starter
beast (5h) : Campbell is right, he's rich and he doesn't have to explain sh!t... but that attitude gives teams reasons to never sign him again.
dfosterf (22-Feb) : I have some doubt about all that
dfosterf (22-Feb) : I read De'Vondre Campbell's tweet this morning (via the New York Post) Florio says that if he invested his earnings wisely, he will be good
beast (20-Feb) : I haven't followed, but I believe he's good when healthy, just hasn't been able to stay healthy.
dfosterf (20-Feb) : Hasn"t Bosa missed more games than he has played in the last 3 years?
Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : He hasn't been too bad when healthy but I don't feel like I ever heard much about when he is
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Felt like he was more interested in his body, than football. He flashed more than I expected
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : When he was coming out, I thought he'd be flash in pan.
Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : Joey seems so forgettable compared to his brother for some reason
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : NFL informed teams today that the 2025 salary cap will be roughly $277.5M-$281.5M
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Los Angeles Chargers are likely to release DE Joey Bosa this off-season as a cap casualty, per league source.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : If the exploit is not fixed, we'll see tons of "50 top free agents, 50 perfect NFL team fits: We picked where each should sign in March" lo
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Issue should be solved, database cleaned and held strong working / meeting. Boom!
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : It should be halted now.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : usually spambots are trying to get traffic to shady websites filled with spyware; the two links being spammed were to the Packers website
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : you know when you put it that way combined with the links it was spamming (to the official Packers website)
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yep. You can do that with holding down ENTER on a command in Console of browser
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : even with the rapid fire posts?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I'm not certain it's a bot.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I've got to go to work soon which is a pity because I'm enthralled by this battle between the bot and Zero
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, I see what that did. Kind of funny.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : now it's a link to Wes Hodkiezwicz mailbag
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Now they're back with another topic
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : oh lol
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I have a script that purges them now.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : 118 Topics with Message.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : what's 118 (besides a number)?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : They got 118 slapped in there.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : that's why it confused the hell out of me
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, but this is taking a headline and slapping it into the Packers Talk
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Wasnt there a time guests could post in the help forum?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : lol good question, kind of impressed!
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : So how is a guest posting?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Tell them its an emergency
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Working. Meetings.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Lots of fun; the spam goes back 4 or 5 pages by this point
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought you'd look for yourself and put 2 and 2 together lol. I overestimated ya ;)
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought Guests couldnt post?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : And gosh that's gonna be fun to clean up! hahaa
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Oh. Why not just say that then? Geez.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : check the main forum, seems a spam bot is running amok
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : What?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Is the Packers online game "Packers Predict" now available for 2024? I can't tell
Zero2Cool (17-Feb) : Bengals planning to Franchise Tag Tamaurice Higgins
Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

19-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / MintBaconDrivel

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

15-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.