DakotaT
9 years ago





Pack have 15 millionish left in cap space this year? I'm willing to take a million-ish hit for some back shoulder catches!

Originally Posted by: musccy 



That $15M needs to be used locking up Mike Daniels.
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DakotaT
9 years ago


I can't believe some actually wanted to give up a late round pick for him. We all knew he would be cut/released/waived.  Even since he has been released, why do we want to bring him on without even seeing what the kids have to offer?

Knowing veterans have their contract guranteed if on active roster week 1, plus we have a pass on 1 spot week 1 and another spot until week 4, it just doesn't make sense to bring him in until we see the kids fail with 12 at the helm. Who knows, maybe Jeff Janis tears up the damn league with 12 tossing him the rock? 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah, I don't know why some of the guys are so adamant on this topic. I'd much rather allow Montgomery a chance to become the player we thought James Jones was going to be: the next Sterling Sharpe. There are just so many balls to go around, especially when you have a back like Eddie Lacy.

I hope the stupidity ends soon.
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greengold
9 years ago

That $15M needs to be used locking up Mike Daniels.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I think cap space is currently $11.8M, but yeah. Daniels will eat a bunch of that. Heyward's contract is up, and they could use some help on the OL.

It's not as much extra money as people think.





musccy
9 years ago
There are 2 WRs with a year of actual live NFL experience on this roster. That's it. Two. What if Adams gets hurt? Is Jones still going to be around in a week or two if we'd wait?

I get the issues with thwarting youth development. We threw HaHa and ESPECIALLY Linsley to the wolves last year and they did great. Mr. Deflate did just fine with a bunch of no-names in 2014. The Packers have a lot of weapons, and I too am gaga for Monty. I get all that. However, there's no denying that Jones provides a security blanket at a big time of transition with the WRs.

As far as the cap, obviously Daniels, and maybe Hayward/Starks needed to be sealed up. Additionally there are some "prove its" coming up for 2016 (Raji, Guion, Barclay, Perry) but we're not going to use 2015 cap dollars on people who have to show us something.

I don't know what Jones would sign for, but if you can get not only a vet, but a vet who could have a nearly seamless transition, for a cheap price, back into the roster as a stop gap to avoid a baptism by fire transition with talented, albeit extraordinarily inexperienced youth, then I don't see big harm done.
nerdmann
9 years ago

There are 2 WRs with a year of actual live NFL experience on this roster. That's it. Two. What if Adams gets hurt? Is Jones still going to be around in a week or two if we'd wait?

I get the issues with thwarting youth development. We threw HaHa and ESPECIALLY Linsley to the wolves last year and they did great. Mr. Deflate did just fine with a bunch of no-names in 2014. The Packers have a lot of weapons, and I too am gaga for Monty. I get all that. However, there's no denying that Jones provides a security blanket at a big time of transition with the WRs.

As far as the cap, obviously Daniels, and maybe Hayward/Starks needed to be sealed up. Additionally there are some "prove its" coming up for 2016 (Raji, Guion, Barclay, Perry) but we're not going to use 2015 cap dollars on people who have to show us something.

I don't know what Jones would sign for, but if you can get not only a vet, but a vet who could have a nearly seamless transition, for a cheap price, back into the roster as a stop gap to avoid a baptism by fire transition with talented, albeit extraordinarily inexperienced youth, then I don't see big harm done.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Monty's a rookie. It takes WRs a year to develop in this system.

As for "thwarting youth development," how much better could Myles White actually be? I mean, he is what he is. Which is, NOT as good as Jones.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
If we wanna play the what if game, why stop at wide receiver? Injuries happen. You stock pile on good players. James Jones I'm fine with taking Myles White spot. But we lose whatever White gave us on special teams. Not so great move.
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musccy
9 years ago

If we wanna play the what if game, why stop at wide receiver? Injuries happen. You stock pile on good players. James Jones I'm fine with taking Myles White spot. But we lose whatever White gave us on special teams. Not so great move.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Why do we have to lose White? I get the 46 active, but the roster can be fluid. Cuts could come elsewhere.

As far as injuries, my point was we feel great about our depth now, but look how thin we appeared or are (at least in terms of experience) once Jordy went down. Lets say Cobb gets hurt, do you still feel good about the depth and experience?

12 months from now I'd feel much more at ease with Adams, Janis, Abby, Pinkard (if those two make the PS), etc. but as of Sept 6th 2015...I'm apprehensive to say the least.
nerdmann
9 years ago

If we wanna play the what if game, why stop at wide receiver? Injuries happen. You stock pile on good players. James Jones I'm fine with taking Myles White spot. But we lose whatever White gave us on special teams. Not so great move.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What does he give us on ST?
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9 years ago

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9 years ago
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