This argument will never be settled unless we can agree on what constitutes a WR1. Some people are, in essence, saying you aren't a #1 unless you are one of the top 3 receivers, some are at the other end saying if you're a #1 for any team, you're a #1, and others are somewhere in between.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 

The debate isn't whether Calvin Johnson is better than Jordy Nelson.

What we're trying to debate is whether Jordy Nelson is a WR1 or not and also identifying the criteria of what makes a WR an actual WR1.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Actually it is, because Calvin Johnson and Dez Bryant are the measuring stick for a legitimate #1 receiver.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

What do you see that makes them better than Jordy Nelson? Are they faster? Are they more agile? Do they catch with their hands more than their body? Are they better at back shoulder catches? Are they better run blockers? What is it that you see? Why is that so hard to explain? If it's so clear and obvious, it shouldn't be difficult to explain, right? I'm just looking for a discussion here.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

The debate isn't whether Calvin Johnson is better than Jordy Nelson.

What we're trying to debate is whether Jordy Nelson is a WR1 or not and also identifying the criteria of what makes a WR an actual WR1.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I feel the same way sometimes arguing with green and gold goggle wearing people. Jordy was Green Bay's number 1 receiver, but he isn't it the same conversation as the elite receivers. Just like Matt Ryan is a fine quarterback, but he isn't in the same conversation as Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady is he?

There, did I did I dumb it down enough for all of you. Jesus H. Christ.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

What do you see that makes them better than Jordy Nelson? Are they faster? Are they more agile? Do they catch with their hands more than their body? Are they better at back shoulder catches? Are they better run blockers? What is it that you see? Why is that so hard to explain? If it's so clear and obvious, it shouldn't be difficult to explain, right? I'm just looking for a discussion here.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

What we're trying to debate is whether Jordy Nelson is a WR1 or not and also identifying the criteria of what makes a WR an actual WR1.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I feel the same way sometimes arguing with green and gold goggle wearing people. Jordy was Green Bay's number 1 receiver, but he isn't it the same conversation as the elite receivers. Just like Matt Ryan is a fine quarterback, but he isn't in the same conversation as Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady is he?

There, did I did I dumb it down enough for all of you. Jesus H. Christ.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

What does the H stand for?

Originally Posted by: sschind 

It sure would be nice to have a legit #1 WR like Jordy Nelson on the active roster right now.

Some claimed that the other WRs would step up and match Jordy's production, because Jordy isn't a true #1. It hasn't happened. Aaron Rodgers is on pace for about 800 yards less than last year, which would be the lowest production of his career by a wide margin, baring the injury shortened season of 2013.

Originally Posted by: earthquake