buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

People claiming that a quarterback doesn't determine a receiver's "#1" status is ALMOST as absurd as the comment that Nelson or Cobb wouldn't sniff 600 yards with an average quarterback. Saying that Boykin would have put up Cobb/Nelson numbers is also ridiculous.

On a different note, what exactly is a #1 receiver? I'm pretty sure it's whoever the number one option team. Again, this argument is stupid.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



Agree this argument is stupid.


I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
DakotaT
10 years ago

A "legit" #1 is a guy who can beat #1 CBs consistently.

But some people are obsessed with measurables.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



And our receivers get handled by teams with great corners.
UserPostedImage
DakotaT
10 years ago

I don't think this argument is stupid at all. Of course, all 32 teams are going to have their #1 guy. There is a TYPE that is what is a true #1 WR. It is not Jordy, it is not RC18, it is not Davante Adams yet when all is said and done we will have fans on this site and elsewhere thinking all 3 are #1 WR's and we have an embarrassment of riches. Heck, Montgomery and Janis might get in on the action and we might have 5 #1 WRs. Unprecedented.

Nobody thought of Jordy as a #1 type when he was drafted...nobody thought of Randall as a #1 type when he was drafted...same goes for Davante. Shoot, if Jordy was a true #1 WR...Ted ain't offering Greg Jennings more money than he ultimately gave to Jordy down the road. Why would Ted Thompson be so worried to watch Greg get away if he knew he had Jordy and James Jones left? Jordy wasn't THE GUY then...he was THE GUY because Jennings departed not because it was in him to be a true #1. Now, Jordy is gone...the guy in his spot (Davante) will likely get crazy stats just like whatever Peyton Manning TE is on the field with Peyton. That is why I posted what I did earlier...I KNOW it's coming. Davante is a #1 WR...look at his stats...we didn't miss a beat. Davante is a superstar! It's all coming because he's in that spot not because he is. I'm sorry but YES, Jarrett Boykin being used in the role Jordy was in DOES get stats like him. Boykin was a Jaguars cut who came to us on a freaking mini camp tryout. He put up numbers on pace with Jordy's when Flynn and the gang were in for Rodgers. Go do the math. Go look. Look at Boykin's starts and Jordy's... extrapolate Boykin's numbers based on 16 games or just divide and look at the average per game. You guys will be SHOCKED if you only look and do some simple math. BOOM! There's your VERIFIABLE SCIENTIFIC DATA that PROVES this. Go look. Stop typing out of your backsides and as the Geico Caveman once said...mabye, next time, do a little research. LOOK! Leave the sentimentality somewhere else for 5 seconds.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Hey, Uncle Buck said this thread is stupid, so that's the end of this conversation. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Green Bay's offense will be just fine. Jordy Nelson was not the glue that held it all together, I think that honor goes to the guy who handles the football on ever play, and his center.
UserPostedImage
buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

Hey, Uncle Buck said this thread is stupid, so that's the end of this conversation. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Green Bay's offense will be just fine. Jordy Nelson was not the glue that held it all together, I think that honor goes to the guy who handles the football on ever play, and his center.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



So you are down to name calling and waiting for something else bad to happen.

Typical.

BTW, I also agree with whoever said that members who don't think Jordy is a #1 receiver are complete football idiots.

Just agreeing with other members posts.
๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Bigbyfan
10 years ago

I don't think this argument is stupid at all. Of course, all 32 teams are going to have their #1 guy. There is a TYPE that is what is a true #1 WR. It is not Jordy, it is not RC18, it is not Davante Adams yet when all is said and done we will have fans on this site and elsewhere thinking all 3 are #1 WR's and we have an embarrassment of riches. Heck, Montgomery and Janis might get in on the action and we might have 5 #1 WRs. Unprecedented.

Nobody thought of Jordy as a #1 type when he was drafted...nobody thought of Randall as a #1 type when he was drafted...same goes for Davante. Shoot, if Jordy was a true #1 WR...Ted ain't offering Greg Jennings more money than he ultimately gave to Jordy down the road. Why would Ted Thompson be so worried to watch Greg get away if he knew he had Jordy and James Jones left? Jordy wasn't THE GUY then...he was THE GUY because Jennings departed not because it was in him to be a true #1. Now, Jordy is gone...the guy in his spot (Davante) will likely get crazy stats just like whatever Peyton Manning TE is on the field with Peyton. That is why I posted what I did earlier...I KNOW it's coming. Davante is a #1 WR...look at his stats...we didn't miss a beat. Davante is a superstar! It's all coming because he's in that spot not because he is. I'm sorry but YES, Jarrett Boykin being used in the role Jordy was in DOES get stats like him. Boykin was a Jaguars cut who came to us on a freaking mini camp tryout. He put up numbers on pace with Jordy's when Flynn and the gang were in for Rodgers. Go do the math. Go look. Look at Boykin's starts and Jordy's... extrapolate Boykin's numbers based on 16 games or just divide and look at the average per game. You guys will be SHOCKED if you only look and do some simple math. BOOM! There's your VERIFIABLE SCIENTIFIC DATA that PROVES this. Go look. Stop typing out of your backsides and as the Geico Caveman once said...mabye, next time, do a little research. LOOK! Leave the sentimentality somewhere else for 5 seconds.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Nobody thought Terrell Owens was a #1 when he was drafted, no one thought Brandon Marshall was a #1 when he was drafted, yet somehow they turned out to be #1 options. Who cares what people thought when players were drafted.
blank
uffda udfa
10 years ago
I'm saying it again, RIGHT NOW, before it happens so I can't be accused of only saying it after the fact. Packers fans will work themselves into a lather that Davante is a #1 WR when he puts up crazy stats because he's in Jordy's spot. The crazy hype train will never be derailed. We will have fans saying we have 3 #1 WR's on our roster and blather on and on how we have the best WR corps in history. We'll also have some fringe Favre fan lamenting that Brett never had 3 #1 WR's like Aaron so it isn't fair to compare the two.

It's all about to hit. Davante will light it up now. He has no choice...the ball is going to be there all the time...he just has to catch it. Just watch. Few will recognize it's about the situation, almost all will blather on of our embarrassment of riches and Davante's superstar nature. Heck, Aaron even said so! So there! Class dismissed!
UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because theyโ€™ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Bigbyfan
10 years ago

Obviously, you don't understand the atrocious quarterback play many team suffer with. One day Green Bay will go back to that too. Then and only then will the younger Packers fans know just how good they've had it.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I'm fully aware that Aaron Rodgers helps our receivers significantly. However, to put it all on him is kinda ridiculous. James Jones put up over 700 yd with a rookie QB in Oakland. That's over the 600 yd that Cobb and Jordy "wouldn't sniff" if they played with an average QB. I think it is safe to say that those two are much more talented than Jones.
blank
uffda udfa
10 years ago

I'm fully aware that Aaron Rodgers helps our receivers significantly. However, to put it all on him is kinda ridiculous. James Jones put up over 700 yd with a rookie QB in Oakland. That's over the 600 yd that Cobb and Jordy "wouldn't sniff" if they played with an average QB. I think it is safe to say that those two are much more talented than Jones.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



The JJ stuff in Oakland is apples and oranges. He wasn't a top option in Green Bay. He was in Oakland. Had he been the same type of option in Oakland as he was in Green Bay his stats would've been far less.

Greg Jennings is the best measure of this if you want to try and compare. Top guy in Minny...top guy in Green Bay. Great in Green Bay...not quite so good in Minnesota.

Just go compare Boykin and Nelson's stats playing with our backups. Boykin was ready for "the next step" when he was in a bigger role. When he went back to a smaller one...he was obsolete. It's about opportunity in Green Bay. Davante now has what Jordy had and Greg had before him. The eating is quite good.

UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because theyโ€™ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

I'm saying it again, RIGHT NOW, before it happens so I can't be accused of only saying it after the fact. Packers fans will work themselves into a lather that Davante is a #1 WR when he puts up crazy stats because he's in Jordy's spot. The crazy hype train will never be derailed. We will have fans saying we have 3 #1 WR's on our roster and blather on and on how we have the best WR corps in history. We'll also have some fringe Favre fan lamenting that Brett never had 3 #1 WR's like Aaron so it isn't fair to compare the two.

It's all about to hit. Davante will light it up now. He has no choice...the ball is going to be there all the time...he just has to catch it. Just watch. Few will recognize it's about the situation, almost all will blather on of our embarrassment of riches and Davante's superstar nature. Heck, Aaron even said so! So there! Class dismissed!

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



So now you are saying Adams IS going to have s breakout year.


Way to argue both sides!

No matter What Davante does now , you will come back and say you we're right.
๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„

The old Uffda spin survives!

I'm gonna agree with others.

No one receiver is going to take Jordys place.
Will be a combination of wr's and te's!

Jordy will return next year and take his #1 reciever spot back!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
nerdmann
10 years ago

So now you are saying Adams IS going to have s breakout year.


Way to argue both sides!

No matter What Davante does now , you will come back and say you we're right.
๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„

The old Uffda spin survives!

I'm gonna agree with others.

No one receiver is going to take Jordys place.
Will be a combination of wr's and te's!

Jordy will return next year and take his #1 reciever spot back!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Another guy who will get an opportunity thanks to Jordy's injury: Jeff Janis will get to make the team.
โ€œWinning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a whileโ€ฆyou do them right all the time.โ€
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (6m) : Yes
Zero2Cool (46m) : No.
dfosterf (1h) : The man carried us a lot of the time
dfosterf (1h) : I think a Kenny Clark tribute is in order
Zero2Cool (9h) : new site, text editor gooder even on phone
beast (9h) : Oh yes, sometimes they make using a cellphone tough. I just wanted to make sure it was the correct article, & thank you for pointing it out.
jdlax (11h) : I can't believe one of my teams went out and wablammo just up and acquired one of the best players in the world overnight
dfosterf (15h) : I do very much appreciate when Beast and others pick up my slack ๐Ÿ˜Š
dfosterf (15h) : I accept Beast's admonishment regarding my failure to link stuff I reference. I simply never learned to link from my cell phone.
beast (16h) : That's not what your she said ๐Ÿ˜Œ, she said keep going ๐Ÿ˜
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Anything over 4 hours means he needs to get to the hospital
Mucky Tundra (19h) : Someone might want to check on Hafley and make sure his erection has gone down
Zero2Cool (20h) : LaFleur texts "bleep me I cannot sit down"
Zero2Cool (21h) : YouTube has had me last hour or two lol
Mucky Tundra (21h) : Ugh this trade happened right as my shift started and it's killing me
Zero2Cool (21h) : Parsons wore 23 in high school.
Zero2Cool (21h) : Packers just cost Lions more money with Hutchinson too huh
Zero2Cool (23h) : That is fair by me.
buckeyepackfan (23h) : Kenny Clark is the player, 2 1st rnd picks
Zero2Cool (23h) : umm... what?
wpr (23h) : I am stunned
Mucky Tundra (23h) : RICKEY SCOOPS WAS RIGHT AGAIN!!!
Mucky Tundra (23h) : ITS HAPPENING
buckeyepackfan (23h) : DEAL IS DONE
buckeyepackfan (23h) : MICAH IS COMING TO GREEN BAY!!!!!!!!!
wpr (28-Aug) : Me do-ed it gooderly,
Zero2Cool (28-Aug) : Bahah, I was like WTF why isn't anyone posting on PP.com ... oops no one has permissions
dfosterf (27-Aug) : tell her I reckon
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Micah Robinson cut. Probable PS player tomorrow. Has to call mom back and t
Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : New site so much better. Might make switch and deal with it.
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Mecole Hardman to our practice squad
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Nick Nieman from Texans our 5th linebacker. Special teams signing
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Looks like we signed Clayton Tune as QB3
wpr (27-Aug) : TKT people lose their minds over QB3. Point is almost none of them are ready that's why they are on the PS and other teams don't take them.
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Unfortunately he doesn't seem ready to be an emergency QB.
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : As a Canadian and a follower of Canadian University football. I am rooting for him
dfosterf (27-Aug) : I bet a lot of us will follow the Taylor Elgersma journey with interest. Personally, got a Kurt Warner vibe goin' on. I like him
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Not sure if either will be claimed though.
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Tune or Hooker would make sense
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Clayton Tune cut by the Cards? Don't know if that's the guy, we shall see
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Per Bill Huber, the Packers will not be bringing back Taylor Elgersma or Sean Clifford on the practice squad, so a new third quarterback
Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : Schefter must have deleted his tweet
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Hopefully Jerry reaches under the seat cushions and ashtrays of his jet and scrapes up the 45 million apr and spares us further nonsense
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Have to admit the PO'd Cowboy fan videos would be fun to watch. Problem with draft picks is half their fanbase barely knows what that is
beast (27-Aug) : I think Cowboys fans are ready to get their pitch forks and burning sticks if Jerry were to trade Micah
dfosterf (27-Aug) : If Jerry traded Micah to GB, here in northern Va. they would have to quick build yet another data center to handle the internet hate traffic
Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : its signing and trades that you don't hear about, other then announced
Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : If you hear rumors about Packers sign or trade, won't happen. Not how they work
dfosterf (27-Aug) : 19 players in a contract year. Jones called loss to us worst loss in Cowboy history. Forget Parsons trade. Not happenin' Cap'n
packerfanoutwest (27-Aug) : The Packers, meanwhile, are the youngest team in the league for the third consecutive year.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
21m / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

28-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

28-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

28-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

27-Aug / Fantasy Sports Talk / Zero2Cool

27-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

27-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

26-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

26-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

25-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright ยฉ 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.comโ„ข. All Rights Reserved.