uffda udfa
9 years ago

I'm not saying you're making this case, but doesn't bringing in an old fart just facilitate the same situation?

Many feel confident in the potential of the youth, and geriatrics just push them to the PS or out the door all together.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Perhaps...however in the above we had Jordy and James as veterans...this time Randall is our elder statesman at 25...that's pretty freaking young.

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musccy
9 years ago

Perhaps...however in the above we had Jordy and James as veterans...this time Randall is our elder statesman at 25...that's pretty freaking young.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Agreed. If Janis can't run a route, or Pinkard can't follow team rules, or Myles White has the droppsies then obviously you have to explore the geezers.

To be honest, I'm indifferent on which way the Packers go. I shamefully acknowledge a vet adds a level of comfort even though I know it's likely a placebo...it can also lead to a C.Johnson situation and we let a really nice, young piece go to another team.

uffda udfa
9 years ago

Agreed. If Janis can't run a route, or Pinkard can't follow team rules, or Myles White has the droppsies then obviously you have to explore the geezers.

To be honest, I'm indifferent on which way the Packers go. I shamefully acknowledge a vet adds a level of comfort even though I know it's likely a placebo...it can also lead to a C.Johnson situation and we let a really nice, young piece go to another team.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I saw someone float the name, Da'Rick Rogers on Twitter as a potential solution. This guy was wildly talented but didn't do much with Indy but I don't think he was given much of a chance there...that DUI ended him there. Had 14 catches for 192 yards and 2 TD's on 23 targets...those are his career numbers. That ain't bad for the small sample size. Also, had 1 post season catch vs. KC...a 46 yard reception. Guy has big play capability. Resurrect in Green Bay.

He has the dreaded measurables of a #1 WR but more issues than Koren Robinson and Justin Blackmon.

Was a top performer in 5 of 7 combine categories:

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/da 'rick-rogers?id=2540179

I know this is all pointless because we like the guys we've got but it's always fun to speculate and project.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
If you're looking for WR's, this is the list you need to focus on because this is the only list that matters.

Here they are in alphabetical order for your convenience.

84 Abbrederis, Jared
17 Adams, Davante
10 Blue, Javess
18 Cobb, Randall
82 Hunt, Jimmie
83 Janis, Jeff
88 Montgomery, Ty
87 Nelson, Jordy
11 Pinkard, Larry
19 White, Myles
5 Williams, Ed


All the injury to Jordy Nelson means is someone who was going to be cut, will not be cut from this group.


Although on topic, I did find this to be funny.


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uffda udfa
9 years ago

If you're looking for WR's, this is the list you need to focus on because this is the only list that matters.

Here they are in alphabetical order for your convenience.

84 Abbrederis, Jared
17 Adams, Davante
10 Blue, Javess
18 Cobb, Randall
82 Hunt, Jimmie
83 Janis, Jeff
88 Montgomery, Ty
87 Nelson, Jordy
11 Pinkard, Larry
19 White, Myles
5 Williams, Ed


All the injury to Jordy Nelson means is someone who was going to be cut, will not be cut from this group.


Although on topic, I did find this to be funny.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You're probably right but that wasn't the case when Ted Thompson went out and got Ryan Grant from the NYG. Looking at who we had available at RB wasn't the list to look at. Ted Thompson CAN choose from any of the FA's or attempt to trade for someone. Larry Fitzgerald wanted out of Arizona. He can do ANYTHING he wishes not that another team would reciprocate. This is one of those cases where it would be fun to see how different Wolf would handle this vs. TT. We kinda know what Ted Thompson is going to do and we know what Ron would've done.


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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

You're probably right but that wasn't the case when Ted Thompson went out and got Ryan Grant from the NYG. Looking at who we had available at RB wasn't the list to look at. Ted Thompson CAN choose from any of the FA's or attempt to trade for someone. Larry Fitzgerald wanted out of Arizona. He can do ANYTHING he wishes not that another team would reciprocate. This is one of those cases where it would be fun to see how different Wolf would handle this vs. TT. We kinda know what Ted Thompson is going to do and we know what Ron would've done.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Ron Wolf wouldn't have some stupid knee jerk reaction before the exhibition season concluded. No one knows how these men will play on the field after few games. Hell, look at that Jarrett Boykin fella. He came in and played pretty well for that one single season.

I've read people bitching about Charles Johnson who clearly have no damn clue how that all went down btw and are simply seeking change for the purpose of change itself.

All I hear is how deep we are at WR and when white lightening goes down we are gonna go pining for someone else's cast offs or worse yet, players who couldn't even land on a NINETY MAN roster for any of the 32 NFL teams?

Am I the only one not smoking the wacky tobacky? Shit, pass the damn pipe then!!!


One fact folks need to realize is this happened mid-exhibition season, not mid-regular season. There is a HUGE difference there. H.U.G.E!
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musccy
9 years ago
Good post zero, and something else I keep coming back to as I stew this in my mind - can anyone name a WR for the Patriots last year? Wasn't Brandon Lafelle one of them? Did I even spell his name right?

Again, I probably wouldn't be leading the group with flaming pitch fork brigade to 1265 if Ted broke character and brought in some vet, but I also am cautiously optimistic that the team can function with what they have in house, even if there are some growing pains. Somehow this franchise got reasonable production out of Jarrett frickin' Boykin 2 years ago.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

Ron Wolf wouldn't have some stupid knee jerk reaction before the exhibition season concluded. No one knows how these men will play on the field after few games. Hell, look at that Jarrett Boykin fella. He came in and played pretty well for that one single season.

I've read people bitching about Charles Johnson who clearly have no damn clue how that all went down btw and are simply seeking change for the purpose of change itself.

All I hear is how deep we are at WR and when white lightening goes down we are gonna go pining for someone else's cast offs or worse yet, players who couldn't even land on a NINETY MAN roster for any of the 32 NFL teams?

Am I the only one not smoking the wacky tobacky? Shit, pass the damn pipe then!!!


One fact folks need to realize is this happened mid-exhibition season, not mid-regular season. There is a HUGE difference there. H.U.G.E!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Andre Rison was out on the streets when Ron Wolf called. I know perfectly well what happened with Charles Johnson. We kept Boykin and Jeremy Ross...yes, Jeremy Ross over him. To say that wasn't a mistake would be revisionist history. Packers couldn't properly diagnose a knee injury. Did that kid very wrong and now it's going to haunt them in two ways.

Not landing on a 90 man roster doesn't mean you can't play. Lyerla is on nobody's roster... he can play...he's just troubled like a Justin Blackmon. Da'Rick Rogers is a heck of a talent...just a troubled immature dude. Who is to say he couldn't find himself in Green Bay?

Yes, there is a HUGE difference...we have time to find someone NOW and incorporate them into our way of doing things. Heck, Favre as a young QB did that on the fly with Rison.

I think it would be an egregious error for Ted Thompson to sit on his hands here. We're the SB favorites not unlike back when Ron pulled the Rison move. Never will we see the difference in the two mindsets more than we do right now. Ron's knee jerk was to add Rison...heck, he added Desmond Howard earlier, also. Without those two guys Brett and the Pack end his era ringless. So, adding a couple of FA's through knee jerk actions proved to be a very fortuitous thing. Our current guy is very unlikely to do anything. Just different strokes.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Good post zero, and something else I keep coming back to as I stew this in my mind - can anyone name a WR for the Patriots last year? Wasn't Brandon Lafelle one of them? Did I even spell his name right?

Again, I probably wouldn't be leading the group with flaming pitch fork brigade to 1265 if Ted broke character and brought in some vet, but I also am cautiously optimistic that the team can function with what they have in house, even if there are some growing pains. Somehow this franchise got reasonable production out of Jarrett frickin' Boykin 2 years ago.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Can anyone NOT name Rob Gronkowski...that's kind of germane to this debate...they had an all world TE. We don't even have an all Brown County TE.

One GM would've done something to make a run at a championship...one gm will like the guys he's got and do nothing. You're free to decide which approach you like better.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Andre Rison was out on the streets when Ron Wolf called. I know perfectly well what happened with Charles Johnson. We kept Boykin and Jeremy Ross...yes, Jeremy Ross over him.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Gotta stop your rambling booty right thar sir! Andre Rison was on the streets when Ron Wolf called when the Jaguars released his ass after 10 games. TEN REGULAR SEASON GAMES. Regular. Season. Games. Ten of them and 9 of which he STARTED. Don't even come chirping Andre Rison, the dude was in FOOTBALL SHAPE and a damn starter.

Let's sign a couple aging wrong side of 30 years old players who couldn't even get a roster spot when 2,880 of them were available. Bingo! Bango! Bucko!!

Let's compare this situation to Andre Rison who started 9 games, played in 10, was 29 years old and had one of 1,590 roster positions when he was released by the Jaguars and the Packers picked him up.

Apples and DONKEYS is what we're talking about right here.


Give me some real names!!!
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