uffda udfa
9 years ago

That is very stellar Ted Thompson of you. 😁

Amari Cooper age 21 cap hit $4,120,566
Jordy Nelson age 30 cap hit $4,600,000

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Amari Cooper has a legit chance at being one of the all time greats. Do that one and throw something in to make that happen.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I waded through just about every word of the 4 pages of this thread.

I guess there are different degrees of ACL tears. We sort of went through this with the Bulaga injury. It's possible Jordy might be back by the end of the season, but that's a long shot, especially with today's tendency to be overly cautious about things - heaven knows, the Packers are among the worst for that. The way he walked off the field gives slim hope, but more than likely, the best case is Nelson comes back undamaged next season.

As for this season: I HOPE the Packers do NOT even remotely consider any over age waste like those mentioned. We do NOT need Jennings, Jones, Wayne, Moss, or anybody else. Of all the positions where we could lose the best player, probably WR is the one where we are hurt the least. The Packers - I absolutely believe - are LOADED at Wide Receiver. Probably the ONLY silver lining to this disgusting turn of events is that we have to cut one less quality WR.

As was said, there are very very few "true #1" receivers who make the QB great. Nelson and Cobb, however, rise to the top level when catching Aaron Rodgers passes. There's no reason not to expect Janis and Adams to do the same (yes, in that order of likelihood). I could see a great future for Pinkard too, and without this injury, we very well might have lost him. Montgomery didn't look very good today, but he should be really good. Myles White looked more decent today than I have seen him, although I doubt we keep him. And then there's the name I didn't see in 4 pages of posts: Jared Abbrederis - at this point, he's still less than 50/50 to be a contributor, but he's not out of the running yet.

Also, we absolutely do NOT need to become a more run-oriented team. That would be just plain stupid. As great as Eddie Lacy is, if he is the MVP, it means he is getting way too many carries and the Packers are hurting themselves.

I do NOT see any reason at this point why the Packers can't still be a super team - the best in the NFL. The much bigger concern than WR is the weakness of the O Line IMO.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Because Janis is gonna take over the league, right?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
9 years ago

Yup... to add to what we had. Now, we have one less similar WR. We need to replace that guy. Crabby runs faster than Davante. Right between Jordy and Davante's 40 time. Great body control and hands. Knows his craft like Jordy does. He can run a bit with it, also. I think he would be a fine replacement considering the circumstances.

I'm sorry you lost your favorite player...that does suck. Hopefully, you can find a new one in his stead. Janis is Jordy 2.0. Hopefully, you can find something you like in him.


Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I've always like Janis and yeah he's the most likely on the team to get close to fulfilling Jordy's role from an x's and o's standpoint but I don't think he's anywhere near being able to play the way Jordy does. The things that don't make all the highlight reels like reading defenses and making route adjustments, that little push off he gets away with all the time, working his way through traffic, beating jams, blocking downfield, etc... I read earlier that Jordy had more 60+ yard TDs by himself last year than 30 NFL teams. This offense is going to change that's for sure. At this point I'm not down on guys like Adams, Janis, and Montgomery being able to step up but things will probably be different this year. At least they have time to adjust.
nerdmann
9 years ago

gonna miss jordy, but now is time for davante to step up his game as well as janis and montgomery, i also would like to see ted look into a trade with the giants and look at james jones once again !!

Originally Posted by: nyrpack 



Ted's done it before, when he nabbed Ryan Grant. I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackerTraxx
9 years ago
This is a real bummer. But I would sooner have it happen now than during the season. It was a meaningless game but I think it would have been worse if it happened against the C Hawks the first series the second game.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I've always like Janis and yeah he's the most likely on the team to get close to fulfilling Jordy's role from an x's and o's standpoint but I don't think he's anywhere near being able to play the way Jordy does. The things that don't make all the highlight reels like reading defenses and making route adjustments, that little push off he gets away with all the time, working his way through traffic, beating jams, blocking downfield, etc... I read earlier that Jordy had more 60+ yard TDs by himself last year than 30 NFL teams. This offense is going to change that's for sure. At this point I'm not down on guys like Adams, Janis, and Montgomery being able to step up but things will probably be different this year. At least they have time to adjust.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Getting his feet down in bounds. Going up for the ball, sacrificing his body over the middle, catching with his hands. Meeting the ball at it's high point. Knowing the whole route tree. Intangible communication with Aaron.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
What about that subtle little head fake Jordy does?
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nerdmann
9 years ago

What about that subtle little head fake Jordy does?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



What about the lack of shit suckage?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Barfarn
9 years ago
We lost a true #1 WR:

1500 Yards,
13 TDs,
6 DPI calls for 129,
ZERO fumbles
a 2.7 drop rate only bested by a handful of WRs,
7th in YAC,
with only 2 penalties in 3 years for 10 yards,
repeat 2 penalties in 3 years,
and a blocking fool and
one who TWICE took less to stay in GB

and what Steve said [“that little push off he gets away with all the time, working his way through traffic, beating jams”]

and what Nerd said [Getting his feet down in bounds. Going up for the ball, sacrificing his body over the middle, catching with his hands. Meeting the ball at it's high point. Knowing the whole route tree. Intangible communication with Aaron”]

and what Tundra said [What about that subtle little head fake Jordy does?]

and to add to Nerd, Aaron Rodgers throws those freakin’ balls out of bounds 25-30 yards downfield on purpose and Jordy is laying out and catchin’ em. UNPRECEDENTED!!!

Did ya see him race down on Lacy’s 56 yrd screen pass TD against Bears to block?

Plus and absolute stud leader in the room and all around great guy, a man!

A #2 WR? LOL, damn, Is a #1 WR some fictional unattainable part of some wet-dreamed wayward NFL perfection fantasy fu(k. LOL Damn!

Jordy might be a #2 if his ACL is torn and Jerry Rice in his prime is on the team.
Porforis
9 years ago


A #2 WR? LOL, damn, Is a #1 WR some fictional unattainable part of some wet-dreamed wayward NFL perfection fantasy fu(k. LOL Damn!

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Come on, Calvin Johnsons are a dime a dozen.
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