Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I still think he is way over paid for his production. This makes me wonder if he pulled himself out of other games in the previous years. It's not he stays on the field for a full 16 games anyways lol.


Find a trade partner for next year because he is not worth the $13 million or the $15 million the year after.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



That's it, that's the ticket!! Trade your only damn Linebacker that has produced anything! Julius Peppers has been solid, but he's entering the last year of his deal in 2016.

Come on man!!!
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

That's it, that's the ticket!! Trade your only damn Linebacker that has produced anything! Julius Peppers has been solid, but he's entering the last year of his deal in 2016.

Come on man!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'm with dhazer... who says what you get back in trade won't net you better and a guy who isn't a me first guy? Could possibly get a 1st for him. Use that 1st for a LB or to combine with your first to trade up and get into a spot where the better players reside. You really want to pay a significant portion of your cap to a guy who won't be there when you need him and is more worried about himself than winning an NFC Championship Game?


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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
If he would have stayed in and been ineffective due to a lingering injury / flareup then we'd still be complaining he didn't show up when we needed him. It is a no win situation.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Barfarn
9 years ago

Does anyone have the tape? Go back and look at the plays prior to him recusing himself and see if he looks limited. Feeling limited and being limited are not the same.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Got me thinking about how Rodgers faked 8 weeks off in 2013. I looked at all his plays PRIOR to him going out and he didn't look like his collar bone was hurt at all. Then he goes out, obviously according to the above-referenced logic faking that his collar bone is broken, what a liar that Rodgers must be.

But, this is the first time EVER that you've tried to support your position by the play on the field. So congrats, you're learning as just the other day you said Hayward is slow...ignoring that he has run in the mid to low 4.4s consistently and ignoring that, for example, on the field he did a wonderful job blanketing the super speedy Wallace in Miami last year either in man or as the sole guy covering Wallace via his 3 deep zone responsibilities.

But, of course, you said look at the plays, without specifically mentioning any, so maybe you were portending to have seen something in the plays. I have looked at the game today and all I can say is: YOU ARE WRONG!

If you can please identify specifically the plays of which you speak.

Note: unless you identify specific plays I will not respond.

dhazer
9 years ago

That's it, that's the ticket!! Trade your only damn Linebacker that has produced anything! Julius Peppers has been solid, but he's entering the last year of his deal in 2016.

Come on man!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well what good is the so called only Linebacker we have if he isn't on the field? Look at his history he is not someone that plays all the games in a season. He sure the hell isn't worth the cap hit we take from him, imagine what we could sign with his money? A good ILB for around 8 a year and then maybe another OLB for another 4 or 5 Million. But hey hes the best thing since sliced bread and roids of course. I think his roid use in college ( my opinion if 2 of the others used why wouldn't he?) could have taken its toll on his body.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Well what good is the so called only Linebacker we have if he isn't on the field? Look at his history he is not someone that plays all the games in a season. He sure the hell isn't worth the cap hit we take from him, imagine what we could sign with his money? A good ILB for around 8 a year and then maybe another OLB for another 4 or 5 Million. But hey hes the best thing since sliced bread and roids of course. I think his roid use in college ( my opinion if 2 of the others used why wouldn't he?) could have taken its toll on his body.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



So I took your recommendation and looked at the games played by Clay Matthews III, the Clay Maker.

He has played six seasons in the NFL, that is 96 possible games and he's played in 85 of them. It would have been 86 if he was not a HEALTHY SCRATCH for Week 17 2011 season.

So he has played in roughly 88.5% of the regular season games during his career if you don't (wrongfully I might add) give him credit for Week 17 in 2011 season.

WHAT A DAMN NANCY PANTS LAWN-FAIRY!!!
[whead]

Oh if you wanna know about the playoffs he's played in ... wait for it ... 10 games ... out of ... TEN GAMES!!! 100% baby!
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MattCl99.htm 
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Got me thinking about how Rodgers faked 8 weeks off in 2013. I looked at all his plays PRIOR to him going out and he didn't look like his collar bone was hurt at all. Then he goes out, obviously according to the above-referenced logic faking that his collar bone is broken, what a liar that Rodgers must be.

But, this is the first time EVER that you've tried to support your position by the play on the field. So congrats, you're learning as just the other day you said Hayward is slow...ignoring that he has run in the mid to low 4.4s consistently and ignoring that, for example, on the field he did a wonderful job blanketing the super speedy Wallace in Miami last year either in man or as the sole guy covering Wallace via his 3 deep zone responsibilities.

But, of course, you said look at the plays, without specifically mentioning any, so maybe you were portending to have seen something in the plays. I have looked at the game today and all I can say is: YOU ARE WRONG!

If you can please identify specifically the plays of which you speak.

Note: unless you identify specific plays I will not respond.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



Had I know this is all I had to do to not have you respond, I would've done that a long time ago. :)

I don't have the game recorded, so I can't go back and look. I asked if ANYONE did or could look at the plays before he pulled himself out and noticed anything about him? He did mention it was a CUMULATIVE effect on him...not one specific thing like a broken collarbone would be. Apple and orange it up. If he looked fine the plays prior and there was nothing specific that looked to be a dealbreaker then he should've been fine. I remember no injury timeout for him.

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sschind
9 years ago

Well what good is the so called only Linebacker we have if he isn't on the field? ...

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I don't know, we have a 5th round WR battling for a position on the team who has barely practiced in 2 years let alone touched the field in even a pre season game and yet some people still think he will be in huge demand if he hits the waiver wire.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Someone on this thread asked for the game to be reviewed and see what hits Clay took before coming out and what not. I have it recorded, but I just tried to watch and first play I saw was Morgan Burnett intercepting a pass and sliding and the Packers acting like they won the Super Bowl. I know the disappointment that comes and turned it off.

No one would give two rats ass what I witnessed anyhow, lol. I think the telling part here is that Clay came back into the game in overtime and appeared just fine. That makes me lean towards the concussion thing.
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