Zero2Cool
9 years ago

The choice is up to Jared, and/or the Packers.
I wouldn't blame him if he quit OR tried to keep playing.
But he sure seems to be accident prone.
If he has to go on IR again, he's done.
He has to make a stand and produce THIS year, or I can't see the Packers keeping him around.
He's got brains, so im sure he could make a living outside of football. But Id love to see him play.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



The thing is Jared has had numerous concussions and he's only something like 22 or 23 and it will only get easier to get the next concussion.

Sydney Crosby had several concussions and they later found out what it actually was and fixed him. Maybe Abberderis is a similar case? The case being that something else is wrong that was causing concussion-like symptoms.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

Young retired after essentially 9 seasons as a starter, if I recall, because of his multiple concussions. He retired while he was still at the top of his game and many people were surprised, I'm sure he was able and would have loved to keep playing if there truly were not significant risks to consider. It's a tough argument to make that he didn't make the right call getting out when he did.

Had he stuck around and took the same beating for 4 or 5 more years, would he be doing as well as he is now? Will he still be doing well in 20 years? These aren't questions any of us can answer, and unfortunately concussion effects are not something that can easily be predicted. The NFL has fought hard against any sort of comprehensive scientific research being done, do you think they've done so because it's all much ado about nothing?

How is Junior Seau doing? For every player you can point to with a concussion history that appears to be doing alright (for today) you can find just as many guys dealing with serious problems, especially the older guys.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



No! You are factually wrong - "For every player with a concussion history that appears to be doing alright, (for today), you can find just as many guys dealing with serious problems" THAT is simply NOT true. You are falling for the hyperbole of the nervous nellies and do-gooders and regulators. It's more like HUNDREDS who had concussion histories that lived normal lives without any long term effects for every one with serious problems. And those who did have problems in many cases - like Seau, since you brought him up - have strong indications of other problems like drugs.

The bottom line is, the decision should be the player's. If he wants to take minimal risk to earn multiple millions of dollars, it's his business - and I ask again, WHO among you, if you had God-given NFL-quality talent, would not take that risk?

One more thing - since you brought up "maybe so and so will start having bad effects in 20 years" or whatever: while it is true, after each concussion, the next becomes more likely, it is also true, the longer the time without bad effect, the more likely the lack of bad effect will continue.

Steve Young, BTW, played 14 seasons in the NFL, making him about 36 - maybe retiring slightly ahead of when you might expect, but not all that much.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

No! You are factually wrong - "For every player with a concussion history that appears to be doing alright, (for today), you can find just as many guys dealing with serious problems" THAT is simply NOT true. You are falling for the hyperbole of the nervous nellies and do-gooders and regulators. It's more like HUNDREDS who had concussion histories that lived normal lives without any long term effects for every one with serious problems. And those who did have problems in many cases - like Seau, since you brought him up - have strong indications of other problems like drugs.

The bottom line is, the decision should be the player's. If he wants to take minimal risk to earn multiple millions of dollars, it's his business - and I ask again, WHO among you, if you had God-given NFL-quality talent, would not take that risk?

One more thing - since you brought up "maybe so and so will start having bad effects in 20 years" or whatever: while it is true, after each concussion, the next becomes more likely, it is also true, the longer the time without bad effect, the more likely the lack of bad effect will continue.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



How many concussions have you had, TExas? lol
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

How many concussions have you had, TExas? lol

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Not as many as I gave to piss ants that went against me hahahahaha.
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sschind
9 years ago

How many concussions have you had, TExas? lol

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Just one but it started in 1975
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
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