uffda udfa
9 years ago
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/07/isaiah-battles-pre-supplemental-draft-workout-draws-26-teams/ 

What round, if any, would you like to see Ted Thompson put a bid in for this guy? Could potentially get the LT of the future if you don't believe in Bakhtiari which I know some of you don't. I'm kind of mixed on Bakhtiari.

Wouldn't mind seeing them use a 6th or 7th on him. Heck, I'd probably be okay with a 5th if he wasn't such a risk.

He would make us less soft and more dirty:



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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago
If we do that I am not sure why we didn't waste a late pick on La'el Collins.
uffda udfa
9 years ago

If we do that I am not sure why we didn't waste a late pick on La'el Collins.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I'm still disappointed we didn't. I think the difference is this kid isn't making the same kind of threats as Collins was.


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nerdmann
9 years ago
I'd maybe drop a 6th on him, it's a position of need. He won't be ready this year though.
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rabidgopher04
9 years ago
Ndamukong Suh is not on the other side of the line of scrimmage twice a year anymore so not really necessary.
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9 years ago
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beast
9 years ago

1) I really want better depth at OT (especially LT) as I don't know what would be best if something happened to Bak, move Bulaga, Sitton or Lang over? or Tretter or Barclay? ... at one point I think Mike McCarthy said something about if having to moving Sitton to LT and someone off the bench to LG. I don't love that idea, but Mike McCarthy could be right, that it might be the best move... but I think the Packers should improve the depth so that they have a better move than that. Tretter got some time in at LT in mop up duty last year, though I don't think he looked that good doing it.

2) As soon as the police said they just wanted to talk with La'el Collins and that he's not a suspect, I said use a late round pick on him. Though I think Collins might be best at RT or OG like Barclay but still the guy has a lot of talent if he can stay out of trouble. Also it was reported that after the 3rd round, some NFL teams were strongly planning on making a move on Collins in the 4th round and some even talking about trading for the first pick in the 4th to get him, but reports came out that he was going to refuse to sign with anyone this year and wait until next year so he could be a top 2 round pick next year turned a lot of teams off, which is why he went undrafted. But I still would of used a late round pick on him if I thought he'd be clear of all that of the field stuff (which I thought he would be). Take him instead of Ringo.

3) Isaiah Battle, I haven't seen him play but usually players do a number of things wrong if they're in the Supplemental Draft. So that's a bad sign right there, and means the Packers will probably be at least two round lower than some other team if not completely out. Thompson has openly stated he doesn't like moving one years picks to another year (especially not from future years to current year) which is what the supplemental draft is. Of course, you never know... if the guys has enough potential to CLEARLY be a lock for future potential reasons, can play LT at the NFL level, and seems like his past problems can be stopped from happening in the future, and seems like he has a decent head on his shoulders, then maybe the Packers will surprise and throw a competitive bid his way. But I doubt it.


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beast
9 years ago

Ndamukong Suh is not on the other side of the line of scrimmage twice a year anymore so not really necessary.

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 



Suh's not there, but I don't think a OT on the outside is going to stop a DT on the inside anyways. And Jared Allen is still that, the Bears and Vikings defense are both improving, the Packers OT depth seems fairly limited and they get to play the NFC West, which might have the best defenses in the NFL (though I think the AFC East might be passing them in that) and don't forget about the Broncos defense who seem to have a lot of speed, nor the Chiefs, you know... that defense that one that put the "1" into the Packers "15-1" season...

Packers could use upgraded OL even if it's only to the second string OT depth. Of course the bigger question is at what price and how much is this kid future going to be worth. I haven't seen him play, but I'm guessing the Packers stay away from the supplemental draft for all players unless it's a 5th round or below and normally if a player is really good a team goes higher it seems... otherwise just lets them drop to FA.
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nerdmann
9 years ago
My depth chart at LT would be:

Bakhtiari-->Bulaga-->Tretter-->Lang-->Barclay

We do have that one developmental guy, I forget his name, so he might slide in after Bulaga if he makes the team. I know Lang can play there, as he has gotten it done in the past, Tretter I'm not sure about, I'd like to see some reps in the preseason.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Don't waste your time on this fella. He'll be out of the NFL in about three seasons. Factoid!
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