Tight End Will Be Green Bay Packers’ Weakest Link on Offense· Page 6

68md
Member

9 years ago

Green Bay has NEVER had a TE in it's history that was close to Rob Gronkowski. Keith Jackson wasn't even close.

Really now ?

Paul Coffman (1978-85) 39 TD 4,223 yards...... just as good of a receiver as Gronk and he played with rules that didn't favor the receiving TE.Coffman was selected to three Pro Bowls

Marv Fleming (1963-69) He was the first player to appear in five Super Bowls: I and II with the Packers, and Super Bowls VI, VII and VIII with the Dolphins, including the 1972 undefeated team. Fleming also won the 1965 NFL title with Green Bay. Not huge he played when the TE wasn't as big a deal.. tough SOB would have sent Gronk calling for his momma.

Ron Kramer (1957, 1959-64) From 1960-64, Kramer hauled in 142 passes for 2,257 yards and rumbled for 15 TDs. Kramer is defined by his contribution to Lombardi’s power sweep, in which Kramer lined up outside the tackle and nailed linebackers, creating either the inside or outside crease the famous coach drilled for endlessly in practice. Despite his devastating blocking, Kramer also had the speed to get loose in the secondary, and he was a quick option for Bart Starr on a blitz. Again a player tougher then Gronk ever imagined being.

I can go on but won't. Please quit quantifying your argument with NEVER if you really don't know. Your argument for a better receiving TE is valid but it comes unhinged when you try desperately to spew packers hate regarding personal and management.

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#52

Gronk's a little bit overrated. As you said, he's the focus of their offense.

RR will get 50+ receptions this year, barring injury.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Gronkowski is not overrated at all. He's a maniac on the field. He catches everything, one man can't bring him down, he's pretty fast and he blocks like a beast. I think Graham is way overrated but Gronk is probably going to be the greatest TE ever if he stays healthy enough. To me Richard Rodgers absolute ceiling is the Atlanta version Tony Gonzalez.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#53

Originally Posted by: steveishere

You may be right, I'll be happy as hell if he becomes another Tony Gonzales.

He was considered the #1 TE until Gates and the rest came along.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#54

You may be right, I'll be happy as hell if he becomes another Tony Gonzales.

He was considered the #1 TE until Gates and the rest came along.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Not HOF Tony Gonzalez, Atlanta version Tony Gonzalez. The catch everything catchable and get first downs but doesn't get great separation or make many big plays type.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#55

Really now ?

I can go on but won't. Please quit quantifying your argument with NEVER if you really don't know. Your argument for a better receiving TE is valid but it comes unhinged when you try desperately to spew packers hate regarding personal and management.

Originally Posted by: wideside

You have embarrassed yourself with the post above but I won't dignify it by copying it all. Yes...the Green Bay Packers have NEVER had a TE who is anywhere near close to Rob Gronkowski. Has nothing to do with TT...I'm talking about the entire history of the Green Bay Packers, yet, we have the koolaid pumping proclaiming RR is close to Gronkowski. It's really embarrassing and sad to be that much of a homer that you can't see how ridiculous these comments are.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

68md
Member

9 years ago

#56

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

😂 please. Yet again when someone counters a point with logic or an opinion that is different you stoop to the above style post. My fault for even trying. Same old same old

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#57

This time it actually has morphed into a bizarre propping up of Richard Rodgers as Rob Gronkowski's near equal. That has nothing to do with Ted Thompson but the delusion follows along that similar line.

Green Bay has NEVER had a TE in it's history that was close to Rob Gronkowski. Keith Jackson wasn't even close.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

RR is closer to Gronk than Janis will ever be to Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Julio Jones or even Terrell Owens.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#58

Originally Posted by: wideside

You haven't countered anything with logic because it's 100% illogical to make a case that RR or any TE in Packers history was close to being like Gronk. You can have that opinion if you like. You can also have the opinion that Matt Blanchard is almost as good as Tom Brady and I will call it insane/ridiculous/wrong etc. You've made it even more clear how we have never had anyone like Gronk. I watched Paul Coffman. A very good TE. He was NOTHING like Gronk. NOTHING.

It's almost like reading Nigel Hayes is almost as good as LeBron James just because Nigel is local. If Richard Rodgers played for any other team you wouldn't even think for a second he was a good TE much less like Gronk. Is Kyle Rudolph close to Gronk? No...not even close. RR isn't anywhere near as good as Kyle Rudolph.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#59

RR is closer to Gronk than Janis will ever be to Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Julio Jones or even Terrell Owens.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

What amazes me about this post is YOU are the one who has made the comparisons. I never have. Why do you do such a thing? I have compared Janis' measurables to Julio's and that is a very accurate comparison. I have never said he's like Julio on the field or any other WR for that matter.

It is funny you can support RR through the homer lens and trash Janis through that same lens. That is bizarre to me.

Last offseason we had a poster who left because I was "too mean" about what he typed about Jarrett Boykin. Boykin was better than Alshon Jeffery is how that went. Same guy who said Davante Adams was better than Sterling Sharpe. Those "opinions" were just plain crazy to me...and should've been to everyone but not to some.

I'm not attempting to be a jerk but if you want to attack me at least do it with something credible not crazy. There was no reason for someone to even attempt posting how some good TE in Packers history was as good as Gronkowski. That's just embarrassing. What should I say in response? Nothing? That you're right when it's plain nuts?

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Bigbyfan
Member

9 years ago

#60

Honestly Richard Rodgers and Gronk do not belong in the same sentence. Gronk is a once in a decade player, Rodgers will be a quality starter.

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