Challenged last year, Adams has Rodgers excited

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When I said Aaron seems to speak about players with precision, this supports that. Also shows he's not as bias as some falsely claim him to be. I highlighted a little portion that I think we uninformed fans should heed notice of. Let's keep an eye on this Adams kid!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I hope he's right...this time.

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No, sir. I have explained to you the differences. I suggest you look up "nuanced" in the dictionary.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

No sir. A month or so ago you were spinning some Aaron Rodgers quote and claiming it meant he didn't support Ted Thompson or draft & develop. As I remember you put a lot of effort into trying to convince us that the really smart Aaron Rodgers agrees with you about what a bum Ted Thompson is. Now when he talks up Davante Adams and there is no way to spin what he said, Aaron clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

Aaron most certainly does NOT believe in TT...where did that come from? Fantasy land?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

You really don't follow this team all that closely to make ridiculous statements like Aaron has the utmost faith in TT. Utter garbage.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

You clearly don't understand, K Aaron Rodgers is not in any way shape or former in favor of TT's approach.

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No sir. A month or so ago you were spinning some Aaron Rodgers quote and claiming it meant he didn't support Ted Thompson or draft & develop. As I remember you put a lot of effort into trying to convince us that the really smart Aaron Rodgers agrees with you about what a bum Ted Thompson is. Now when he talks up Davante Adams and there is no way to spin what he said, Aaron clearly doesn't know what he is talking about.

Originally Posted by: greengold

You really don't understand do you? If Rodgers is going to talk "negatively" about someone or something that is probably a very accurate depiction of what he thinks as well as the fact he is recapping not talking about the present or future which I elucidated as being totally different things as to whether it should be believed.

Rodgers talked up Jermichael as being one of the ALL TIME GREATS at TE. He talked up Harris as "Special" and smiled widely on SNF regarding what he thought of Harris. James Jones joined the refrain on Harris saying he was like Barry freaking Sanders. Harris is gone...a fart in the wind after all that gushing from Rodgers and James Jones. All that talk proved to be irrelevant and wrong.

Now, we have this play out with Davante Adams and it's rock solid... Rodgers knows what we don't know. I said...I hope he's right this time because he spouts a lot of stuff that is dead wrong.

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You really don't understand do you? If Rodgers is going to talk "negatively" about someone or something that is probably a very accurate depiction of what he thinks. The converse is not true, however, and I mentioned this in a previous post.

Rodgers talked up Jermichael as being one of the ALL TIME GREATS at TE. He talked up Harris as "Special" and smiled widely on SNF regarding what he thought of Harris. James Jones joined the refrain on Harris saying he was like Barry freaking Sanders. Harris is gone...a fart in the wind after all that gushing from Rodgers and James Jones. All that talk proved to be irrelevant and wrong.

Now, we have this play out with Davante Adams and it's rock solid... Rodgers knows what we don't know. I said...I hope he's right this time because he spouts a lot of stuff that is dead wrong.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

And if Finley hadn't gotten injured he could have become one of the greats. I doubt it, but you would claim it was "unknowable" if it supported your position. There was nothing wrong with Harris, he left in free agency. What about Ruvell Martin? Wasn't Rodgers wrong about him being good enough to play somewhere if not here that year? He only played in the league for 7 more years.

It seems you only claim Rodgers doesn't know what he is talking about when he disagrees with you.

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And if Finley hadn't gotten injured he could have become one of the greats. I doubt it, but you would claim it was "unknowable" if it supported your position. There was nothing wrong with Harris, he left in free agency. What about Ruvell Martin? Wasn't Rodgers wrong about him being good enough to play somewhere if not here that year? He only played in the league for 7 more years.

It seems you only claim Rodgers doesn't know what he is talking about when he disagrees with you.

Originally Posted by: greengold

I spent years in sports media listening very carefully to athletes and coaches. It's ALL the same...ALL garbage almost all the time.

What you don't understand is a player or coach rarely will ever say anything "negative" and when they do even if it's very veiled it's incredibly relevant. On the other hand, players and coaches are CONSTANTLY talking up players...that's what they do. It happens in every NFL city and every city with any major pro sports team. Heck, college, too.

Davante is now a very important part of what we're doing. He's our 3rd WR on a team that almost always has injuries. Nelson or Cobb is very likely to be down for a significant portion of time this season, so Davante is likely to be counted upon heavily. Do you think Rodgers wants to do anything to stifle his confidence or do you think he's going to blow smoke to encourage the kid to be great because he needs him?

Rodgers was also calling Abby "Magic" last year saying he looked like he was going to help us right away. Janis is a 7th rounder and I doubt the expectations of Rodgers were anywhere near what they were for Adams in Rodgers mind.

12 was talking up Jeremy Ross when he was here. He just does those things and I think trying to read into them as if they mean gospel that is a huge mistake.

One more quick thing...when it comes to media quotes, you have no clue what power the team has over what gets reported. I do. I worked for an NFL flagship station for a few years...and another non flagship station. The team would issue specific instruction to not ask negative questions. If you want to do that they'll just pull your credentials. I had that happen to a place I worked. You couldn't ask sincere honest questions without repercussions. So, the majority if not entirety of what you read and hear is all puff stuff but you think otherwise because you don't know any better.

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I spent years in sports media listening very carefully to athletes and coaches. It's ALL the same...ALL garbage almost all the time.

What you don't understand is a player or coach rarely will ever say anything "negative" and when they do even if it's very veiled it's incredibly relevant. On the other hand, players and coaches are CONSTANTLY talking up players...that's what they do. It happens in every NFL city and every city with any major pro sports team. Heck, college, too.

Davante is now a very important part of what we're doing. He's our 3rd WR on a team that almost always has injuries. Nelson or Cobb is very likely to be down for a significant portion of time this season, so Davante is likely to be counted upon heavily. Do you think Rodgers wants to do anything to stifle his confidence or do you think he's going to blow smoke to encourage the kid to be great because he needs him?

Rodgers was also calling Abby "Magic" last year saying he looked like he was going to help us right away. Janis is a 7th rounder and I doubt the expectations of Rodgers were anywhere near what they were for Adams in Rodgers mind.

12 was talking up Jeremy Ross when he was here. He just does those things and I think trying to read into them as if they mean gospel that is a huge mistake.

One more quick thing...when it comes to media quotes, you have no clue what power the team has over what gets reported. I do. I worked for an NFL flagship station for a few years...and another non flagship station. The team would issue specific instruction to not ask negative questions. If you want to do that they'll just pull your credentials. I had that happen to a place I worked. You couldn't ask sincere honest questions without repercussions. So, the majority if not entirety of what you read and hear is all puff stuff but you think otherwise because you don't know any better.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Don't worry, I fully understand coach speak. I fully understand players don't say anything negative to regarding teammates. I also know you can listen to what isn't said or look at the context the comment was given in before completely dismissing it.

I also know you quote player and coach words as if they were gospel in your "arguments" when they support your position, and dismiss them out of hand them when they don't.

You certainly are magnanimous in your self appointed mission to rescue this board from all us dumb homers with your special brand of "truth." Get over yourself.

The team would issue specific instruction to not ask negative questions. If you want to do that they'll just pull your credentials. I had that happen to a place I worked.

Let me guess. Teddy pulled your credentials, so now he is the anti-Christ.

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Don't worry, I fully understand coach speak. I fully understand players don't say anything negative to regarding teammates. I also know you can listen to what isn't said or look at the context the comment was given in before completely dismissing it.

I also know you quote player and coach words as if they were gospel in your "arguments" when they support your position, and dismiss them out of hand them when they don't.

You certainly are magnanimous in your self appointed mission to rescue this board from all us dumb homers with your special brand of "truth." Get over yourself.

Let me guess. Teddy pulled your credentials, so now he is the anti-Christ.

Originally Posted by: greengold

No. The difference is I have a much better feel for what is real and what is puff. I keenly understand the relationship between media and the Green Bay Packers. What you get is almost exclusively puff pieces and quotes. What does that lead to? A homer fan base. Why? There is very little reality and truth coming out of them. It's all the perception they want you to have. Is it any wonder this is how this board mostly operates as well as most of Packer nation? Say something "negative" like I do and oh, no! you're not a fan. Must be a Vikings or Bears fan. People used to nothing but puff quotes don't handle a view that isn't puffy very well because that's the teet they suckly unwittingly all the day long.

Oh, the Seahawks were the team that banished my network. Asked a question of Ricky Watters they considered "negative"...never were given another minute of time with a coach or a player for YEARS. The question was about his AGE as a RB maybe a hint of declining performance. That was it...ovah! No more Seahawks for you! Done! Cut off!

If you can't see that the fact the filter of nothing but sugary sweet is on in full force for you to read mostly from this team and the effect it has on what you believe then you're lost.

Thankfully, there are guys like Michael Rodney and a few others out there. Packers fans are cultivated to love the sugar. Oh, and I do love the sugar, too, but there's a whole lot more going on than just that. Objectivity is an elusive creature around Packerland.

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MM: I would say Davante Adams, if you wanted a clear illustration of a player taking a jump in his second year, you just saw it. He's been tremendous in OTA's and he has more in front of him. He's done a great job in strength and conditioning. If you picked a MVP or an All-Star, he'd be at the top of the list.

--So, Davante is the best of the Year 2 guys?

Hey, we should get the Matt Blanchard (who?) train rolling, also.

MM on our 4th string QB: Matt Blanchard had a heck of a day today. I told him in April, "Why in the hell do you not have a job?" There's a lot to work with as far as his physical talent. He's a winner. He's in a good place. He's getting better every week.

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oy vey still on the Adams kick ?

MM: I would say Davante Adams, if you wanted a clear illustration of a player taking a jump in his second year, you just saw it. He's been tremendous in OTA's and he has more in front of him. He's done a great job in strength and conditioning. If you picked a MVP or an All-Star, he'd be at the top of the list.

--So, Davante is the best of the Year 2 guys?

Hey, we should get the Matt Blanchard (who?) train rolling, also.
Mike McCarthy on our 4th string QB: Matt Blanchard had a heck of a day today. I told him in April, "Why in the hell do you not have a job?" There's a lot to work with as far as his physical talent. He's a winner. He's in a good place. He's getting better every week.

Adams didn't go backwards in the offseason is all that means( that's a good thing) and the Blanchard news is only big because he kicked Hundly's can yet again... always nice when a D3 QB is out playing a 5th round pick. 😠

What do you want him to do during CBA walk through's ??? He brags on players like this always..never says bad things. That's MM

Real football starts the last week of July Uffda... until then it is what it is. :mrgreen:

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Amen, wideside! Oh, and that 5th rounder was one we traded up for!

I just wish these crazy hype trains would get derailed. It's one thing if you actually believe it based on what you've seen and completely different if you're getting all hyped up from reading quotes.

Real football...soon!

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Don't worry, I fully understand coach speak. I fully understand players don't say anything negative to regarding teammates. I also know you can listen to what isn't said or look at the context the comment was given in before completely dismissing it.

I also know you quote player and coach words as if they were gospel in your "arguments" when they support your position, and dismiss them out of hand them when they don't.

You certainly are magnanimous in your self appointed mission to rescue this board from all us dumb homers with your special brand of "truth." Get over yourself.

Let me guess. Teddy pulled your credentials, so now he is the anti-Christ.

Originally Posted by: greengold

Easy greengold, Uffda just trying to educate you and others from an angle you would never be able to understand.
(sarcasm)
I say you and others because I have been in the business for 20 plus years.

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Back on topic, I like what I am hearing so far, not only with Adams, but just the overall crispness of the practices.
Seems this team is focused from top to bottom to make the coming year something special.

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Easy greengold, Uffda just trying to educate you and others from an angle you would never be able to understand.
(sarcasm)
I say you and others because I have been in the business for 20 plus years.

The 1st THING I always tell my new people is when going for a story, ask stupid questions and you will get stupid answers, ask incredibly stupid questions and you will be shown the door!
Someone learned that lesson the hard way!
😄😄😄😄😄

Back on topic, I like what I am hearing so far, not only with Adams, but just the overall crispness of the practices.
Seems this team is focused from top to bottom to make the coming year something special.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Small pond thinking is always a delight.

Let's start talking some numbers. If Davante is truly this star we keep hearing he is he will obviously have a much better season than he had last year when he was anything but a star. He didn't even look like a star in the making to me whereas Randall, Greg, Javon, etc. surely did.

What are your expectations based off what you've READ because you haven't seen anything but quotes.

Tell me what is going to prove to you that all this hype is warranted? I say nothing less than 70 receptions with an average reception of 14 or more. That puts him to very close to a thousand yard season at 14.0 per grab. Throw in 8 or more TD's, too. Hey, the kid's a star...Randall didn't get this much love from Rodgers back then and he didn't even get it in the recent quote that spoke to Woodson, Peppers, and Greg Jennings have that confidence that Davante has. Oh, but Rodgers did say when all was said and done RC18 would be Ted Thompson's best draft pick. I guess Aaron was dissing himself because he's such an accurate gauge when he gives quotes?

BTW, I left the business when I learned the only places for me to go to grow were NY and LA. I didn't want to live in either city. Was never fired from anywhere. The Best Damn Sports Show was the last place to seriously pursue me and I did some work for BEYOND THE GLORY there at Fox from my home because I didn't want to live there. I probably got to work directly with one of Buck's heroes...Pete Rose. It is a different world, Buck, or maybe not in Lima?

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Small pond thinking is always a delight.

Let's start talking some numbers. If Davante is truly this star we keep hearing he is he will obviously have a much better season than he had last year when he was anything but a star. He didn't even look like a star in the making to me whereas Randall, Greg, Javon, etc. surely did.

What are your expectations based off what you've READ because you haven't seen anything but quotes.

Tell me what is going to prove to you that all this hype is warranted? I say nothing less than 70 receptions with an average reception of 14 or more. That puts him to very close to a thousand yard season at 14.0 per grab. Throw in 8 or more TD's, too. Hey, the kid's a star...Randall didn't get this much love from Rodgers back then and he didn't even get it in the recent quote that spoke to Woodson, Peppers, and Greg Jennings have that confidence that Davante has. Oh, but Rodgers did say when all was said and done RC18 would be Ted Thompson's best draft pick. I guess Aaron was dissing himself because he's such an accurate gauge when he gives quotes?

BTW, I left the business when I learned the only places for me to go to grow were NY and LA. I didn't want to live in either city. Was never fired from anywhere. The Best Damn Sports Show was the last place to seriously pursue me and I did some work for BEYOND THE GLORY there at Fox from my home because I didn't want to live there. I probably got to work directly with one of Buck's heroes...Pete Rose. It is a different world, Buck, or maybe not in Lima?

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Dude nobody cares.

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Dude nobody cares.

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Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Nobody cares about Davante's stats? Why not? He should outdo what he did this year by leaps and bounds.

Oh, if you're referring to me, I don't care either. I am curious, though... Are you a Pete Rose fan?

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Amen, wideside! Oh, and that 5th rounder was one we traded up for!

I just wish these crazy hype trains would get derailed. It's one thing if you actually believe it based on what you've seen and completely different if you're getting all hyped up from reading quotes.

Real football...soon!

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Crazy hype trains?

Unlike your love for Janis, which is completely rational.

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Tell me what is going to prove to you that all this hype is warranted? I say nothing less than 70 receptions with an average reception of 14 or more. That puts him to very close to a thousand yard season at 14.0 per grab. Throw in 8 or more TD's, too. Hey, the kid's a star...

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I'll take some of that action.

The only thing that will get in his way of those numbers is sharing the ball with Jordy, Cobb, Richard Rodgers, Eddie Lacy and whoever emerges.

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I'll take some of that action.

The only thing that will get in his way of those numbers is sharing the ball with Jordy, Cobb, Richard Rodgers, Eddie Lacy and whoever emerges.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

That's an excuse right there. He's already sharing the ball with those guys to begin with...did last year. The one who emerges absolutely has to be Davante, right? He's the star. If anyone besides him emerges then Davante is NOT a star.

I think he should hit AT LEAST 70 receptions...that is a ground floor. 8 TD's and 900+ yards. He's a STAR. MVP of OTA's...Aaron has put him in the Peppers, Woodson, Greg Jennings category.

Crazy hype train on Janis? No. I haven't a clue if the kid will catch one ball for us this year or more than Davante...I just KNOW he has more attributes to him than Davante and should be a better player if he gets it.

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That's an excuse right there. He's already sharing the ball with those guys to begin with...did last year. The one who emerges absolutely has to be Davante, right? He's the star. If anyone besides him emerges then Davante is NOT a star.

I think he should hit AT LEAST 70 receptions...that is a ground floor. 8 TD's and 900+ yards. He's a STAR. MVP of OTA's...Aaron has put him in the Peppers, Woodson, Greg Jennings category.

Crazy hype train on Janis? No. I haven't a clue if the kid will catch one ball for us this year or more than Davante...I just KNOW he has more attributes to him than Davante and should be a better player if he gets it.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I see you're trying to weasel out of it already.

How about this: let's compare Janis's numbers to Adams'.

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I see you're trying to weasel out of it already.

How about this: let's compare Janis's numbers to Adams'.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I'm the one weaseling? How so? You're the one who qualified the deal by saying unless someone else emerges???? How could anyone emerge with a star like Davante there? It is you who is backing off. A star is a star... what is Richard Freaking Rodgers or Andrew Quarless going to emerge? OR...Do you fear Janis! 🤣

Ha ha...yes, let's compare a guy who got to play in garbage time and got 2 receptions to the high draft pick who got to play all year. Sounds fair.

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I'm the one weaseling? How so? You're the one who qualified the deal by saying unless someone else emerges???? How could anyone emerge with a star like Davante there? It is you who is backing off. A star is a star... what is Richard Freaking Rodgers or Andrew Quarless going to emerge? OR...Do you fear Janis! 🤣

Ha ha...yes, let's compare a guy who got to play in garbage time and got 2 receptions to the high draft pick who got to play all year. Sounds fair.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Where did I qualify anything? What I said was IF he doesn't get it, that will be why, not because of shit suckage on his part.

In fact, YOU are the one who is qualifying, by saying Davante only gets to play because of his draft status. So yeah, didn't think you'd stand behind what you said.

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