gbguy20
10 years ago
Not surprising considering McCarthy is committed to giving lacy the rock a designated # of times whether its effective or not or costing us the game.
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steveishere
10 years ago
Throwing deep is only "stat whoring" if it isn't efficient yet you keep doing it. Since 2011 Rodgers hasn't been in the top 15 in % of passes that are deep passes yet he's been top 3 in accuracy in every season. That's the opposite of stat whoring.

Rodgers is really good at finding where a defense is weak and attacking the weakness. If a team is strong against deep passes he'll throw more short passes if a team is weak deep then he'll throw a lot of deep passes. This stuff about throwing short passes for the sake of throwing more short passes or running for the sake of running more is stupid. The most important thing is the specific teams you are playing. If they are playing a team that has shitty deep pass defense but really good against the run and short game should they try and force runs and short passes for the sake of not "stat whoring". Of course not, you should kill them deep until you win the game.
Porforis
10 years ago

Throwing deep is only "stat whoring" if it isn't efficient yet you keep doing it. Since 2011 Rodgers hasn't been in the top 15 in % of passes that are deep passes yet he's been top 3 in accuracy in every season. That's the opposite of stat whoring.

Rodgers is really good at finding where a defense is weak and attacking the weakness. If a team is strong against deep passes he'll throw more short passes if a team is weak deep then he'll throw a lot of deep passes. This stuff about throwing short passes for the sake of throwing more short passes or running for the sake of running more is stupid. The most important thing is the specific teams you are playing. If they are playing a team that has shitty deep pass defense but really good against the run and short game should they try and force runs and short passes for the sake of not "stat whoring". Of course not, you should kill them deep until you win the game.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Well uh, then he's stat whoring for completion percentage! That's it!
hardrocker950
10 years ago

Throwing deep is only "stat whoring" if it isn't efficient yet you keep doing it. Since 2011 Rodgers hasn't been in the top 15 in % of passes that are deep passes yet he's been top 3 in accuracy in every season. That's the opposite of stat whoring.

Rodgers is really good at finding where a defense is weak and attacking the weakness. If a team is strong against deep passes he'll throw more short passes if a team is weak deep then he'll throw a lot of deep passes. This stuff about throwing short passes for the sake of throwing more short passes or running for the sake of running more is stupid. The most important thing is the specific teams you are playing. If they are playing a team that has shitty deep pass defense but really good against the run and short game should they try and force runs and short passes for the sake of not "stat whoring". Of course not, you should kill them deep until you win the game.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



My thoughts as well. An offensive game plan should act with purpose rather than "just because."
nerdmann
10 years ago

Throwing deep is only "stat whoring" if it isn't efficient yet you keep doing it. Since 2011 Rodgers hasn't been in the top 15 in % of passes that are deep passes yet he's been top 3 in accuracy in every season. That's the opposite of stat whoring.

Rodgers is really good at finding where a defense is weak and attacking the weakness. If a team is strong against deep passes he'll throw more short passes if a team is weak deep then he'll throw a lot of deep passes. This stuff about throwing short passes for the sake of throwing more short passes or running for the sake of running more is stupid. The most important thing is the specific teams you are playing. If they are playing a team that has shitty deep pass defense but really good against the run and short game should they try and force runs and short passes for the sake of not "stat whoring". Of course not, you should kill them deep until you win the game.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



My preference isn't for short passing, it's for high percentage passing.

Frankly Mike's game plans puzzle me at times.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Passing is Passing - On just about every pass play, there are receivers going deep and receivers going short or mid-range. As was said, Aaron Rodgers, in addition to having magnificent accuracy and well above average escapability, has a knack for throwing to the right receiver based on who is open and what yardage is needed. THAT is what the Packers do best; THAT is what the Packers do better than just about anybody else now or in any era.

To the extent the title of the thread is true, it's a wrongheaded departure from what the Packers do so well - trading Great for mere Good - using a grind-it-out offense with a good, but not breakaway back running behind an OK but not dominant offensive line.

I like a lot about McCarthy, but if he REALLY is committed to the trend mentioned in the thread title, then ......... well, he damn well shouldn't be.

Sure, you gotta run the ball at times, but it should be very limited - a change of pace or when the game is in the bag and you are trying to run out the clock.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Passing is Passing - On just about every pass play, there are receivers going deep and receivers going short or mid-range. As was said, Aaron Rodgers, in addition to having magnificent accuracy and well above average escapability, has a knack for throwing to the right receiver based on who is open and what yardage is needed. THAT is what the Packers do best; THAT is what the Packers do better than just about anybody else now or in any era.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Even when he's passing up a wide open guy for 8, waiting for something to open up deep?

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steveishere
10 years ago

My preference isn't for short passing, it's for high percentage passing.

Frankly Mike's game plans puzzle me at times.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Rodgers deep passing is the highest percentage deep passing anyone has ever had in the history of the game. I'd say stick with whats working.
mi_keys
10 years ago
Nerd, your wanting Aaron to throw slants all day feels like someone having access to a Lamborghini but driving it 5 mph under the speed limit.
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