The operating system is far from 'complete shit'. It's a tile system baked over Windows 7 and you can get it to behave very much like Windows 7.


Problem is most would rather blow energy pissing and moaning than finding ways to make things work.


That said, I'm looking forward to Windows 10. 🤤 😁



btw, I am using Windows 7 to give you this message. 😂

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I like Windows 8 for the most part... not sure why it's panned as badly as it is. I have a developer friend who HATES it and says it is a nightmare for a developer. He uses 7, too.

Windows 10 doesn't do much for me...8 seems to work just fine for what I do.

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I wouldn't say 8.1 is better than 7 but it's not notably worse. It's trivial and takes 1 minute to get your computer to boot straight to the desktop and go straight to apps when you hit windows. While it's not great that it's fullscreen, you can still sort by most recently used apps. That's a minus to me. A big plus is shortcuts to commonly used stuff (for us IT people) when right clicking on the start button.

Personally, I think people's perception of 8 are based on two factors.
1. 8 was pretty bad (almost vista bad) when it first came out. 8.1 fixed most of the problems but "Windows 8" is already in the collective psyche as a meh release
2. People hate change. People got used to Windows XP changes from 2000 (or 98/98SE, which most people upgraded from). People got used to 7 changes from XP. Use a computer for a few months and all the changes are going to become second nature.

Funny thing happened to my perception of Windows 8 (8.1) after I started having to use it regularly (my job consists of integrating third party applications with flavors of Windows Embedded) I started disliking it less and less. 7 is still better but there's nothing wrong with 8.1 - For a Windows "Off-release", it's much more Windows 2000 than Windows ME or Windows Vista.

I'm personally looking forward to 10, seems like it's somewhat of a mix of 7 and 8. Built a new computer and needed an OS, decided to go with 8.1 since it was cheaper than 7 and since I can upgrade with either to 10.

Your favorite website admin is a developer and has zero issues developing on Windows 7 or 8. I'm going to assume your developer friend uses a lot of 3rd party controls instead of their own code. Which is one reason I despise 3rd party controls and won't use them. They are too unpredictable.

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I'm an ubuntu guy.

Can't F'n stand 8. Blocks installation of ubuntu, among many other things.

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So many things about Ubuntu are illogically done. And I try Linux every year or so because it is free for the most part.

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if you are running windows 7 right now, you should have an icon near your clock, to upgrade to windows 10 free

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I think that icon is allowing you to reserve a early spot in line to receive the 3GB download. The release is July 29th. I'll be upgrading my workstation at home, but not my two media PC's because Microsoft are jerks and removed Windows Media Center software. And I use that to record TV shows.

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I'm not a programmer lol.

Like you said, it's free. It's also not the evil empire.

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I have some software concepts that would be great to run on Linux, but Wine doesn't seem to play nice for me. It's easier to sell a product to someone on a machine that costs $150 without an OS charge of $100 on top of it. Especially when the software runs autonomously. I keep trying from time to time though lol. Cuz if I can get it, I'll be in good shape!

Of course, I could just learn to code in whatever the heck Linux recognizes.

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