texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

If true that the 9/11 bitches used utility knives, then I can tell you right now that the TSA would not prevent another 9/11 and I know this for a fact because I have traveled numerous times with a utility knife in my luggage. Actually, I think they used exacto knives, right?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If you're talking carry-ons, that's surprising and a potential problem. Of you're talking check-in luggage, you don't have access during the flight anyway so no big deal.

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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Okay, you're an apologist. :)

P.S. No more than the scanners were ever shown to prevent acts of terrorism in the first place.

The reality is that *NO ONE* has *EVER* met the burden of proof that should have been required before the TSA and company decided to commit millions of violations of individual's rights daily.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I would suggest that the burden of proof be on those risking LIVES, rather on those risking money and inconvenience. In other words, it needs to be proven that the various security measures do NOT greatly reduce the chance of terrorist acts, NOT on the TSA or airlines to prove they do.

I could care less about getting my body scanned, but I hate waiting in line as much or more than anybody. However, I hate getting killed even more.

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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

If you're talking carry-ons, that's surprising and a potential problem. Of you're talking check-in luggage, you don't have access during the flight anyway so no big deal.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

It was carry-on. When I travel, I do not trust check-in luggage, lol.

I could care less about getting my body scanned, but I hate waiting in line as much or more than anybody. However, I hate getting killed even more.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

Two things. How much less could you care since you have made it clear that it is possible for you to care less. Also, how many times have you been killed that you know you hate it? Did you not get 72 virgins the first time?
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

It was carry-on. When I travel, I do not trust check-in luggage, lol.

Two things. How much less could you care since you have made it clear that it is possible for you to care less. Also, how many times have you been killed that you know you hate it? Did you not get 72 virgins the first time?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You love semantics, dontcha? hahahaha

I'm not a great believer in reincarnation. Either way, I'm about 70 below my quota.

Seriously, foiling the potential mass murder of a huge number of Americans in a terrorism event trumps just about any other consideration - whether it's TSA or NSA or DHS or whatever other alphabet soup that comes along doing the foiling. Your experience with the sharp objects is a little bit scary in terms of security, but it also tells me you better be careful, as your luck at beating the scanner could run out.

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Zero2Cool
10 years ago
I wasn't trying to beat the scanner though. It wasn't something I aimed for. I didn't want to miss my flight.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

I wasn't trying to beat the scanner though. It wasn't something I aimed for. I didn't want to miss my flight.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I didn't mean to imply that you were, but people have been hauled away in handcuffs for similar stuff. Maybe there is some subtle profiling going on even though they supposedly don't do that, and maybe you look harmless hahahaha.

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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I didn't mean to imply that you were, but people have been hauled away in handcuffs for similar stuff. Maybe there is some subtle profiling going on even though they supposedly don't do that, and maybe you look harmless hahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I think you're right, that they didn't check thoroughly due to my appearance. I was dressed business casual, white and good looking. That's not really saying threat to anyone, except their of-age daughters!! 😝 😍
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10 years ago

I would suggest that the burden of proof be on those risking LIVES, rather on those risking money and inconvenience. In other words, it needs to be proven that the various security measures do NOT greatly reduce the chance of terrorist acts, NOT on the TSA or airlines to prove they do.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Seriously?

I guess that's why you're a conservative and I'm not.

To me, those who would use the state to restrict my freedom ALWAYS have the burden of proof. And some vague notion of "might prevent some nasties" isn't ever enough to meet the evidentiary burden.

To quote a non-random dead guy, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."





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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Seriously?

I guess that's why you're a conservative and I'm not.

To me, those who would use the state to restrict my freedom ALWAYS have the burden of proof. And some vague notion of "might prevent some nasties" isn't ever enough to meet the evidentiary burden.

To quote a non-random dead guy, "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice."





Originally Posted by: Wade 



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10 years ago

Flying is not a freedom.

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