Ron Wolf: Legend. Ted Thompson: Failure.· Page 10

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

They could make a book/movie, Uffda Udfa + Jumal Rolle an unlikely love story for the ages.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

As long as Ted Thompson isn't the director, it has a chance to great.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#92

Ted is easily one of top 5 GMs in the league.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#93

Ted is easily one of top 5 GMs in the league.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules

Based on what? Our record? Mike Sherman must've been a Top 5 GM, too, if we're basing it off record. Why was Mike Sherman's record so good? Brett Favre. Do you happen to see any parallels with Ted Thompson? They're as plain as the nose on your face.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

68md
Member

10 years ago

#94

Had to reread this thread twice... and still feel like I did leaving some HS parties years and years ago. Dazed and confused.

Uffda doesn't dig Ted Thompson got it. Others think he's the man with the plan great got that.

My spin here, Ted Thompson is far from a perfect GM but he's a heck of a lot better then most. Has he missed some picks ? YUP Has he made a boneheaded move or 3. YUP

However he has the franchise in a rather stable place competing for NFC North Titles and beyond every year. That's hard not to appreciate.

Last note please for the love of god don't use Goodson to defend TT. I saw that kid trip over his own feet in TC last summer... TWICE !:xcensored

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#95

Fantasy land is what I fight against, daily, on this board.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Oh your cause is incredibly noble! I hope it brings you much joy, noble sir! We would be lost without you here to constantly tells us how wrong we are and how right you are. You are really changing the world with your repetitive forum posts!

I think you've really changed a lot of minds here. You've certainly made me change my mind on everything. (I don't see sarcasm emoticon anymore or it would be used heavily here). Keep fighting the good fight!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

#96

I have addressed the issue...there was MAJOR risk in trading your 1st for a guy who totally flamed out in Atlanta...far more risk than using your own 1st rounder on him the previous year.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

It was a risk, not a major risk. Ron Wolf had two first round picks (5th overall and 19th overall) and was going after a quarterback he felt had all the tools to be a great quarterback and he also landed a quarterback guru for a head coach. When you look at the whole picture, it really wasn't as risky as some exaggerate it to be.

Something I found interesting. The Packers traded two 1993 second round picks, their 1993 fourth round pick, 1993 eighth round pick to the Dallas Cowboys for the 29 pick of the first round pick and a 1993 fourth round pick. George Teague was selected.

As for this topic, and after reviewing each of Wolf draft classes, he would take DT Jordan Phillips

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#97

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

I do hear Triumph in my head when I'm posting regarding TT.

I can only be repetitive about Ted Thompson if there is first another glorification post about him. Sadly, you just see my responses as annoying and repetitive while being blissfully unaware of another tireless "TT is great" post. It's like it needs to be typed about all the time to convince you of something you don't really believe.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#98

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Trading a 1st for a player who had proven to be a total clown is beyond a major risk...that is why it NEVER happens anymore for a player like Brett was in Atlanta. Tell me the last time you saw a GM deal a 1 for a guy like Favre after what he (didn't) show in Atlanta? That is the definition of a major risk.

Will anyone deal their 1 for Manziel? He showed nothing and was a clown in Cleveland. So, if a GM deals a 1 for him it wouldn't a major risk to you? See, this time you don't have hindsight on your side because you have no clue what would happen with Manziel if he was to be dealt for a 1st. Looking at it from this side increased the risk factor...I'm not sure risk is understood in the context we're discussing it. It seems the way it worked out has made some reinvent what the word risk actually means.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#99

Originally Posted by: wideside

Mike Sherman did the same as GM. He was a clown. Shermy had the Favre luxury like Ted Thompson has the Rodgers luxury, but at least Rodgers was TT's own "genius" pick.

Competing for the NFCN with the best QB to ever play is a given. Who our GM was would have zero bearing on whether we'd be in the hunt for NFCN titles. Sherman could GM us to that with Rodgers. A great GM has us with multiple rings already. That is why Ted Thompson is not a great GM. He's been there ONCE. The same thing that will be said when he's gone.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#100

Competing for the NFCN with the best QB to ever play is a given.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I still think you give Aaron Rodgers FAR too much credit, and the rest of the Packers, including Ted Thompson, too little credit. Aaron Rodgers is NOT the "best quarterback to ever play." Perhaps he will end up that way, but he's not that yet. In order for him to be considered in the conversation for one of the best, he needs to play better in the playoffs for more than just one season and a couple other games. You can't absolve Rodgers for the Packers playoffs losses and place all the blame on Ted Thompson. A team could always be better. Absolutely. That's rhetorical. But Aaron Rodgers needs to play better in the playoffs. As do other superstars such as Clay Mathews, and many other players that are capable of playing better.

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