Zero2Cool
9 years ago



UserPostedImage
sschind
9 years ago



Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Very well put.

steveishere
9 years ago
It's the nature of the game that you are going to "overpay" sometimes. I have no problem with overpaying if the overall money or guarantee money is low (Brad Jones) or if the money is high you know is a player that is very good in ability/character/locker room/future potential/scheme fit and such as (Jordy,Cobb). Like Brad Jones, ended up not a good signing and was overpaid but his contract never really hurt the team. I was not a big fan of Peppers contract, an older player though a freak athlete coming off a down season with a pretty high amount of 2nd year money. Glad it worked out.

I very much prefer not to give out these monster contract that some players get but have nothing against the more modest deals for the less elite players. There are still good players out there sometimes that you don't have to spend a fortune on though usually they are the guys coming from your own team.
baumer16
9 years ago
And this was my point. You can get some significant players that could really help this team for almost nothing right now. I'm just surprised he's so against going that route but has no problem over paying some of his own guys.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
When Dom Capers first installed the 3 - 4 I was looking for the Packers to overpay to land Chris Canty. That to me filled a need and since he had experience the 3 - 4 (albeit not Dom's) I thought it was worth the investment.

To get players to sign with Green Bay, they have to overpay them because this isn't a big city filled with nightlife. This crop of free agents, I didn't see anyone that was worth overpaying to bring to the Packers, even just for one year. Although prior to free agency, I had thought it would be good to land someone like Rolando McClain.

This isn't so much me saying the flock of free agents was crap as much as it is me saying the Packers are quite talented and need to develop their young guys.



And this was my point. You can get some significant players that could really help this team for almost nothing right now. I'm just surprised he's so against going that route but has no problem over paying some of his own guys.

Originally Posted by: baumer16 



Glad ya could make it bud! Sorry, that Twitter stuff gets me all sorts of tangled lol.

I think it is easier to spend extra to keep someone you know very well than to spend extra on a virtual unknown. Especially when that unknown's prior team isn't willing to do so. Know what I mean?
UserPostedImage
steveishere
9 years ago

And this was my point. You can get some significant players that could really help this team for almost nothing right now. I'm just surprised he's so against going that route but has no problem over paying some of his own guys.

Originally Posted by: baumer16 



You don't necessarily know that you can get good players now for "almost nothing" I bet a huge reason good players are still available is they want way too much. When you pay a lot of money for someone like Cobb, Bulaga, or Morgan Burnett you already know EXACTLY the player/man you are getting which makes it significantly less of a risk to sign that dotted line. My guess is at this point most teams are waiting to see how they draft plays out before finishing the roster and some free agents are probably waiting for that as well.
baumer16
9 years ago
I disagree with they have to overpay for everyone. I mean Cobb and Bulaga took less money to stay. Is it the most ideal place to be in the league, no. But for a chance to win a championship this could be a very appealing place. Also at this point in free agency nobody is getting a huge contract. So overpaying now maybe a million dollars. Nothing of crazy significance.

They are very talented no question, but that doesn't mean they don't have concerns. And by ignoring free agency you put a lot of pressure on yourself to hit it out of the park on draft day. Which Ted can obviously do but I just don't see whats wrong with having a little bit of a backup plan.
baumer16
9 years ago

When Dom Capers first installed the 3 - 4 I was looking for the Packers to overpay to land Chris Canty. That to me filled a need and since he had experience the 3 - 4 (albeit not Dom's) I thought it was worth the investment.

To get players to sign with Green Bay, they have to overpay them because this isn't a big city filled with nightlife. This crop of free agents, I didn't see anyone that was worth overpaying to bring to the Packers, even just for one year. Although prior to free agency, I had thought it would be good to land someone like Rolando McClain.

This isn't so much me saying the flock of free agents was crap as much as it is me saying the Packers are quite talented and need to develop their young guys.





Glad ya could make it bud! Sorry, that Twitter stuff gets me all sorts of tangled lol.

I think it is easier to spend extra to keep someone you know very well than to spend extra on a virtual unknown. Especially when that unknown's prior team isn't willing to do so. Know what I mean?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 





I agree and I would never want to see the Packers as significant players in free agency. But having said that I think he does miss out on some decent "role" players from time to time that really carry little to no risk.
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I disagree with they have to overpay for everyone. I mean Cobb and Bulaga took less money to stay. Is it the most ideal place to be in the league, no. But for a chance to win a championship this could be a very appealing place. Also at this point in free agency nobody is getting a huge contract. So overpaying now maybe a million dollars. Nothing of crazy significance.

They are very talented no question, but that doesn't mean they don't have concerns. And by ignoring free agency you put a lot of pressure on yourself to hit it out of the park on draft day. Which Ted can obviously do but I just don't see whats wrong with having a little bit of a backup plan.

Originally Posted by: baumer16 



You're right, not everyone. The examples you provided were drafted by the Packers though. Trying to lure a free agent to Green Bay when they see free agency as sort of winning the lottery.

Reggie White and Charles Woodson are examples who the Packers had to outbid to get to come to Green Bay, but once were here, were less demanding on their contracts.
UserPostedImage
baumer16
9 years ago

You don't necessarily know that you can get good players now for "almost nothing" I bet a huge reason good players are still available is they want way too much. When you pay a lot of money for someone like Cobb, Bulaga, or Morgan Burnett you already know EXACTLY the player/man you are getting which makes it significantly less of a risk to sign that dotted line. My guess is at this point most teams are waiting to see how they draft plays out before finishing the roster and some free agents are probably waiting for that as well.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I agree I obviously don't know for sure but in all probability they won't be getting much. You're also talking about significant free agents like Bulaga, Cobb, Burnett. Guys that will demand a good amount of money. I'm talking about free agents available now that you could probably get on the cheap. At least in all probability.
Fan Shout
packerfanoutwest (2h) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (18h) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

22-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

19-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.