steveishere
10 years ago
Heh the Bucs just traded away one of their big time FA signings from 2 seasons ago with Dashon Goldson. Teams like them are why it's hard to get any decent deals in FA. They decide to go "all in" and pay huge contracts to average/above average players which skyrockets contracts for everyone.
Smokey
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10 years ago
I never forget a truth that can't be argued against.

" Offense wins games, Defense wins championships "

Luxury selections are just that, this 2015 Draft must focus on ILB's and CB''s . The Packers must take advantage of Aaron Rodgers before it is too late, but he can't carry the whole team on his back, he will need a top 5 Defense to win SB's .



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steveishere
10 years ago

I never forget a truth that can't be argued against.

" Offense wins games, Defense wins championships "

Luxury selections are just that, this 2015 Draft must focus on ILB's and CB''s . The Packers must take advantage of Aaron Rodgers before it is too late, but he can't carry the whole team on his back, he will need a top 5 Defense to win SB's .



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Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Why is that? Seattle is the only team with a top 5 defense that has won since we did last. Were those teams quarterbacks that much better than Rodgers? We need to get better for sure but we had a good enough team last year to win the Superbowl it just didn't work out. We don't need a top 5 defense we need the defense and offense to play up to their capabilities in the playoffs.
Smokey
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10 years ago
I've been a Packer fan for 52+ years . I have seen every SB that has been played and NFL Championships before that . I have never seen a team win a championship that did not have a championship defense.
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Smokey
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10 years ago
Who do you see filling the ILB and CB spots for 2015 ?

Who would step up if a man goes down ?

Is Rodgers backup qualified to lead the Packers if needed ?

Who should start at Defensive NT ?

What is the greatest need on Special Teams for the 2015 Packers ?

Who do you see returning punts and Kickoffs ?

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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I've been a Packer fan for 52+ years . I have seen every SB that has been played and NFL Championships before that . I have never seen a team win a championship that did not have a championship defense.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



That is quite incredible to have been able to see all Super Bowl's, very cool.

You say every Championship winner had a Championship defense. How do you define Championship Defense? And follow up inquiry is do you feel the Packers current roster has enough to be Championship defense material?
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Smokey
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10 years ago

That is quite incredible to have been able to see all Super Bowl's, very cool.

You say every Championship winner had a Championship defense. How do you define Championship Defense? And follow up inquiry is do you feel the Packers current roster has enough to be Championship defense material?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The Packers have the potential to field a championship defense. Much will depend on the play of the CB's and LB's . I can see a Packer dynasty if they manage to acquire the right personal. It is for that reason that I'm so concerned about this off-season. The next 4 to 5 seasons may hinge upon what the Packers do in this critical period.

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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
If all goes well, they should look like SB champions by season end.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
steveishere
10 years ago

The Packers have the potential to field a championship defense. Much will depend on the play of the CB's and LB's . I can see a Packer dynasty if they manage to acquire the right personal. It is for that reason that I'm so concerned about this off-season. The next 4 to 5 seasons may hinge upon what the Packers do in this critical period.

:computer: :buzzsaw:

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Well our defense overall played better against Seattle than New Englands did last year. We had a championship team last year that as a team didn't play up to it's capabilities when it needed to. It's not as simple as having the best team or not there are too many factors than influence whether you win or lose. You can have a team with pro bowlers at every position and still have a high probability to not win the Superbowl. I know it's frustrating to see teams with good potential not win every year but that's the NFL.
Smokey
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10 years ago

Well our defense overall played better against Seattle than New Englands did last year. We had a championship team last year that as a team didn't play up to it's capabilities when it needed to. It's not as simple as having the best team or not there are too many factors than influence whether you win or lose. You can have a team with pro bowlers at every position and still have a high probability to not win the Superbowl. I know it's frustrating to see teams with good potential not win every year but that's the NFL.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 




Coach Lombardi never accepted excuses. Winning was the only thing .

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