What should the 2015 Packers look like ?· Page 2

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

Heh the Bucs just traded away one of their big time FA signings from 2 seasons ago with Dashon Goldson. Teams like them are why it's hard to get any decent deals in FA. They decide to go "all in" and pay huge contracts to average/above average players which skyrockets contracts for everyone.

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#12

I never forget a truth that can't be argued against.

" Offense wins games, Defense wins championships "

Luxury selections are just that, this 2015 Draft must focus on ILB's and CB''s . The Packers must take advantage of Aaron Rodgers before it is too late, but he can't carry the whole team on his back, he will need a top 5 Defense to win SB's .

:signduh:

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#13

I never forget a truth that can't be argued against.

" Offense wins games, Defense wins championships "

Luxury selections are just that, this 2015 Draft must focus on ILB's and CB''s . The Packers must take advantage of Aaron Rodgers before it is too late, but he can't carry the whole team on his back, he will need a top 5 Defense to win SB's .

:signduh:

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Why is that? Seattle is the only team with a top 5 defense that has won since we did last. Were those teams quarterbacks that much better than Rodgers? We need to get better for sure but we had a good enough team last year to win the Superbowl it just didn't work out. We don't need a top 5 defense we need the defense and offense to play up to their capabilities in the playoffs.

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#14

I've been a Packer fan for 52+ years . I have seen every SB that has been played and NFL Championships before that . I have never seen a team win a championship that did not have a championship defense.

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#15

Who do you see filling the ILB and CB spots for 2015 ?

Who would step up if a man goes down ?

Is Rodgers backup qualified to lead the Packers if needed ?

Who should start at Defensive NT ?

What is the greatest need on Special Teams for the 2015 Packers ?

Who do you see returning punts and Kickoffs ?

::?: ::?: ::?:

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Smokey

That is quite incredible to have been able to see all Super Bowl's, very cool.

You say every Championship winner had a Championship defense. How do you define Championship Defense? And follow up inquiry is do you feel the Packers current roster has enough to be Championship defense material?

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

The Packers have the potential to field a championship defense. Much will depend on the play of the CB's and LB's . I can see a Packer dynasty if they manage to acquire the right personal. It is for that reason that I'm so concerned about this off-season. The next 4 to 5 seasons may hinge upon what the Packers do in this critical period.

:computer: :buzzsaw:

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#18

If all goes well, they should look like SB champions by season end.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Well our defense overall played better against Seattle than New Englands did last year. We had a championship team last year that as a team didn't play up to it's capabilities when it needed to. It's not as simple as having the best team or not there are too many factors than influence whether you win or lose. You can have a team with pro bowlers at every position and still have a high probability to not win the Superbowl. I know it's frustrating to see teams with good potential not win every year but that's the NFL.

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Coach Lombardi never accepted excuses. Winning was the only thing .

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Zero2Cool (52m) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

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beast (53m) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (57m) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

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packerfanoutwest (1h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in

packerfanoutwest (1h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker

packerfanoutwest (1h) : if bucs win out they win their division

beast (1h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us

packerfanoutwest (1h) : falcons are already ahead of us

beast (1h) : Packers will get in

beast (1h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen

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Zero2Cool (3h) : We can say it. We don't play.

Mucky Tundra (4h) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints

Mucky Tundra (4h) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games

Mucky Tundra (4h) : Packers are not in and have not clinched a playoff spot.

buckeyepackfan (5h) : Packers are in, they need to keep winning to improve their seed#.

Mucky Tundra (14h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan

beast (14h) : Too bad Seahawks couldn't beat Vikings

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Mucky Tundra (18h) : Or ties, but let's be real here

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buckeyepackfan (18h) : Am I wring in saying if Tge Vikings beat The Seahawks, The Packers clinch?

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Mucky Tundra (21-Dec) : rough injury for tank dell. guy can't catch abreak

beast (21-Dec) : So far the college playoffs have sucked... One team absolutely dominates the other

beast (21-Dec) : Well even if you weren't positive towards a guy, you wouldn't nessarily want to tell the media that (if they don't know about it)

Martha Careful (21-Dec) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.

beast (21-Dec) : I think a great running game will do that for most QBs

packerfanoutwest (21-Dec) : Coach Matt LaFleur has said quarterback Jordan Love is playing the best football of his career.

beast (21-Dec) : Oh, that's how you keep beating buckeye, with cheating

Zero2Cool (20-Dec) : There is a rule that if your name starts with 'b' you lose 15 points. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them!

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