Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Whoa, that is something earth shattering isn't it? Let me quickly explain me sticking my neck out so far here. Former Ted Thompson disciple, John Schneider has just 16 players with a first round grade and it's easy to surmise Thompson in that same ball park. I could see the Packers trading back 5-10 spots while adding a 3rd rounder in the process at least.
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DarkaneRules
10 years ago
agreed.
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musccy
10 years ago
I was expecting a news article about this. Although I'm sure I'd be annoyed at the time as we waited all day (and months) for a pick, I've hear of only 2ish 1st round grades as well and the rational level headed part of me wouldn't be upset by this.
mi_keys
10 years ago

Whoa, that is something earth shattering isn't it? Let me quickly explain me sticking my neck out so far here. Former Ted Thompson disciple, John Schneider has just 16 players with a first round grade and it's easy to surmise Thompson in that same ball park. I could see the Packers trading back 10-15 spots while adding a 3rd rounder in the process at least.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Curious where you got the Schneider bit. Not disputing it but would be interested to know. Was that released with the trade of their first in the Graham trade?
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I was expecting a news article about this. Although I'm sure I'd be annoyed at the time as we waited all day (and months) for a pick, I've hear of only 2ish 1st round grades as well and the rational level headed part of me wouldn't be upset by this.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



What you mean a news article? You don't want us coming up with anything original here?


Curious where you got the Schneider bit. Not disputing it but would be interested to know. Was that released with the trade of their first in the Graham trade?

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I trust Peter King when he wrote "It took Schneider until Tuesday morning to come to the conclusion that it was worth it. But because he has only 16 first-round grades on this year’s class" in his Wednesday Morning QB article .
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Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

Whoa, that is something earth shattering isn't it? Let me quickly explain me sticking my neck out so far here. Former Ted Thompson disciple, John Schneider has just 16 players with a first round grade and it's easy to surmise Thompson in that same ball park. I could see the Packers trading back 10-15 spots while adding a 3rd rounder in the process at least.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Where'd you hear the Schneider bit?

Edit: Guess mi_keys beat me to it:whipitgoo
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TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago
I get Ted Thompson does a great job in the second and third round, but if we are looking at trying to find a starter at ILB and/or CB, do you trust it out of a 2nd round pick?

It could mean we trade up for once if there is someone on his board dropping to the point where the cost isn't too high.

I recognize increasing our odds by accumulating picks, but it seems wasteful at times to draft players you can't keep on your roster and other teams pluck from your practice squad or guys you cut.

The need to possibly address CB and ILB starters makes this a bit of a challenge.
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
The more draft picks you have, the more chances you have to succeed on one or more of them.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I get Ted Thompson does a great job in the second and third round, but if we are looking at trying to find a starter at ILB and/or CB, do you trust it out of a 2nd round pick?

It could mean we trade up for once if there is someone on his board dropping to the point where the cost isn't too high.

I recognize increasing our odds by accumulating picks, but it seems wasteful at times to draft players you can't keep on your roster and other teams pluck from your practice squad or guys you cut.

The need to possibly address CB and ILB starters makes this a bit of a challenge.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Why wouldn't I trust it out of the 2nd round? Randall Cobb, Eddie Lacy and Jordy Nelson were all 2nd round choices and they are starters. Casey Hayward was 2nd rounder and he's performed quite well. Morgan Burnett was 3rd rounder and he's a starter.

If you're sitting at 30th overall and you have several guys you like that could be had in the top of round two, you absolutely trade back 5, 10 or so spots and still get one of the guys you want while adding another selection. Why? Because you never know if that 6th rounder will be Tom Brady or that 7th rounder will be Donald Driver.

I think the bigger question is, why would wouldn't you trade back if you can still get someone you want while adding more picks?



Check this out for example. The 2013 Draft, the Packers had the 55th overall selection and traded back 6 spots and took Eddie Lacy while adding the 173rd overall selection, a sixth-round selection. They still got their guy and added a pick in the process. Interesting to note that the Packers packaged that 173rd (and the 146th overall) pick to move up to 125th overall to select RB Johnathan Franklin.
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musccy
10 years ago
I'm apologize in advance for acknowledging I'm a big Vic Ketchman guy and one of his sayings is to go BPA, OR trade to where your player needs meets the value.

If this draft does in fact have that few 1st round grades, yes, by all means trade to where the need/quality/value all meet. If you can accumulate more picks in the process, awesome.

Virtually all of the "legion of boom" were late rounders. We already discussed the Packers 2nd and mid-round successes.
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