PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
I am still failing to see how Jones being aggressive is something to setup the conditions for a fake? Isn't he supposed to try and get penetration and get the block?
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nerdmann
9 years ago

I am still failing to see how Jones being aggressive is something to setup the conditions for a fake? Isn't he supposed to try and get penetration and get the block?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



He's supposed to play fundamentally sound football.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

He's supposed to play fundamentally sound football.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



What wasn't fundamentally sound? His job is to penetrate through the Oline and try to block the kick is it not? So how does him doing that make it condusive for a fake FG? Or was he not supposed to try for the block? If he was suppose to stay back and guard against a roll out.
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Yerko
9 years ago
Yes, this is 100% a coaching issue but my goodness...how many times is Brad Jones going to burn this team? More bad than good from him and in this case, while Slocum should be held responsible I can't help but to push blame on both.

Slocum needs to go and the Packers need to get a REAL special teams coach in.
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buckeyepackfan
9 years ago
From reading several of the threads, I have come to the only conclusion that seems applicable.

TIME TO FIRE THE WHOLE COACHING STAFF AND START FROM SCRATCH!

The Packers should follow the lead of The Bears.

They fired Lovie even though he had a winning record, brought in a new regime.

That really worked.

According to some the events that happened on Sunday that caused the loss has been a reaccurring problem for years.

So why the hell hasn't. Ted Thompson done something?
TIME TO FIRE TED!

Mark Murphy just resigned. Ted!

WTF?????????

That Red Haired SOB needs to go also!

Then maybe The Packers will start winning again!
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IronMan
9 years ago

From reading several of the threads, I have come to the only conclusion that seems applicable.

TIME TO FIRE THE WHOLE COACHING STAFF AND START FROM SCRATCH!

The Packers should follow the lead of The Bears.

They fired Lovie even though he had a winning record, brought in a new regime.

That really worked.

According to some the events that happened on Sunday that caused the loss has been a reaccurring problem for years.
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So why the hell hasn't. Ted Thompson done something?
TIME TO FIRE TED!

Mark Murphy just resigned. Tedy!

WTF?????????

That Red Haired SOB needs to go also!

Then maybe The Packers will start winning again!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

Not one person here has said we need to fire Mike McCarthy and the entire coaching staff. This reminds me of what Trom used to do in the chat room. I would say something like, "That was a bad pass by Rodgers." Trom would come back with, "wow. One bad pass and you want to cut our MVP?"

A lot of people here have criticized Mike McCarthy for taking his foot off the gas. Nobody said he should be fired. You're overreacting to normal criticism that comes after a loss.



buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Not one person here has said we need to fire Mike McCarthy and the entire coaching staff. This reminds me of what Trom used to do in the chat room. I would say something like, "That was a bad pass by Rodgers." Trom would come back with, "wow. One bad pass and you want to cut our MVP?"

A lot of people here have criticized Mike McCarthy for taking his foot off the gas. Nobody said he should be fired. You're overreacting to normal criticism that comes after a loss.



Originally Posted by: IronMan 



I didn't say anyone said that, said that was my conclusion after reading several of the threads.

Nobody is happy.

Ted and Mike have been doing this for 9 years now.

They are not going to change.

2 options

Deal with their way of doing things

FireThem and hire someone else.

If there is a 3rd, I can't. Think of it.

EDIT:
For anyone who wonders, I'm good with either decision.

Not happy with the final loss, but can't do anything about it.

IMHO. Packers have been just fine. But if the decision is made to clean house, will be an exciting new era for The Packers.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Sarcasm isn't the answer either. There's plenty of blame for individual players; Plenty of blame also for Slocum in this case, and McCarthy, and Ted Thompson.

In the case of special teams, I don't know if this is Slocum's decision or McCarthy's, but it seems to be a collection spot for the garbage of the team - Brad Jones at the top of the list, but by no means the only one on it. Yeah, all teams do that to some extent, but the Packers seem to do it almost exclusively, and they seem to give the most prominent roles to shaky people. Here, I would cite A.J. Hawk - based on seniority I assume - basically playing Safety on FGs. Since the chance of a block is miniscule anyway, usually resulting from a low kick in the middle, why not go with a 2 deep in that situation, and use players with some athleticism?


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nerdmann
9 years ago

Not one person here has said we need to fire Mike McCarthy and the entire coaching staff. This reminds me of what Trom used to do in the chat room. I would say something like, "That was a bad pass by Rodgers." Trom would come back with, "wow. One bad pass and you want to cut our MVP?"

A lot of people here have criticized Mike McCarthy for taking his foot off the gas. Nobody said he should be fired. You're overreacting to normal criticism that comes after a loss.



Originally Posted by: IronMan 



I don't think we CAN fire him in the present situation. But we have to take a long HARD look at the way he goes about his business. A long overdue look.

Then there is the issue of his staff.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Someone asked if Brad Jones was wrong for aggressively attacking how he did. Something to think about. I still wonder about the self scouting.
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