We are ready for next year.· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

Next year is already here. For this team. Time to look to the draft, where unfortunately it isn't looking like there is a Stud ILB that we all would like to see.

Its hard to say they don't have the attitude or desire, but when you look at Sea and GB, it isn't hard to see the difference emotionally between the teams. Sometimes that fire in the belly is the difference between a W and a L. And we were on the wrong side of that difference. We have nobody on offense that provides that, and on defense not many.

Not sure where that can come from because it is not in the nature of Dom, Mike or Ted.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

Mike does not have the ability to lead men into battle.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#12

Mike does not have the ability to lead men into battle.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

This is a ridiculous oversimplification. 7 point dogs, mvp qb limited, top wr with appendicitis going into the defending champs, best defense since 85 bears.

The team dominated all but the last few minutes and you're going to say he can't lead men?

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#13

Mike does not have the ability to lead men into battle.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Mike and Dom are like Generals, great at planning the battles and wars. But not who you walk into battle with. For that you look to the Sergeants.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#14

Packers have some decision to make...

FAs this offseason:
Randall Cobb, WR
Bryan Bulaga, OT
Tramon Williams, CB
B.J. Raji, DT
Letroy Guion, DT
Davon House, CB
Jarrett Bush, CB
Matt Flynn, QB
Scott Tolzien, QB
John Kuhn, FB
DuJuan Harris, RB
Jamari Lattimore, ILB

Originally Posted by: beast

Of those, I want to see Williams gone and it does not have to do with the amount of money he will make or his play on the field. It is because he is not a leader and at the point of his career he should be. He made that clear last year when he said there needs to be more veteran leadership. Well he is the veteran of the secondary, it is his job to be that leader. If there is a shortage it is his fault for not being one.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

nerdmann
Premier Member

9 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: musccy

It's a pattern.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

pchour88
Rookie

9 years ago

#16

This loss was very heartbreaking, as I will finally admit. I thought we were ready, but I was wrong. Bostick screwed up and the offense just didn't click like always. The only positive that came out of this was that they exposed Wilson for what he is: an average QB at most. The hawks fans may try to defend their QB despite that "heroic" comeback but 5 picks almost screwed them over and the Packers nearly won this game.

As for next year's schedule for this team: Schedule for us this DOES look tough depending on the moves those teams will make, although the north will get tough depending on what moves the Bears make now that Fox is coaching that team, as well as Suh commanding the most $$$ from whatever team that wants him. Our defense was fantastic, until that fateful game-winner Kearse made as well as dumb mistakes they made in the last quarter. If the Hawks' defensive coordinator takes that job in Atlanta, maybe their defense will dip a bit depending on who they'll hire to replace him.

This will hurt for a while, I guarantee that.

musccy
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#17

It's a pattern.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Bostic dropping onsidrs, haha napping on 2 points, Burnett kneeling on ints, and James starks dropping passes at the 5 are all patterns you can directly attribute to the coach?

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

The man called out his own boss to get more vets, that's ballsy and leadership (if it's correct) and you have to admit he was correct, with getting Peppers and Guion.

He lead in saying they needed MORE of it.

Mike Daniels who's been leading as of late said it was Tramon Williams who lead him, it was Williams who convinced him to not just go along to be along, but be yourself and speak up when you want to speak up and say what you want to say and be who you want to be. That is leadership. Williams had leadership.

DakotaT
Select Member

9 years ago

#19

Tramon has to be resigned because neither Hayward or House have played well enough to justify letting him walk. If a premier left tackle was let go and hits free agency, I would try and snag him up and move Bahktiari to RT and let Bulaga walk. That would solidify our O-line. I also hope we draft 3 more linebackers this year and make those positions of strength.

And we also need a bonecrushing fullback. Felton from Minnesota is a free agent, otherwise, you have the roll the dice on a rookie to groom behind Kuhn.

beast
Select Member

9 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

If you let them compete against each other at RT, I'm not sure Bahktiari would beat Bulaga... might be a down grade at RT. Also heck I think Bulaga would make one hell of an OG, maybe as good or better than Sitton not having to worry about an edge rusher on the outside and both Sitton and Lang have been dealing with their own injuries.

Is Felton really that good? Or is he just getting hype from playing in front of RB Peterson?

These guys might hit harder than Felton.

John Kuhn, Green Bay Packers
Will Tukuafu, Seattle Seahawks (former DL, not the most athletic but can hit hard)
Henry Hynoski, New York Giants
John Conner, New York Jets

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Zero2Cool (38m) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

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beast (3h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (4h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (4h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (4h) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (4h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (4h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (4h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (4h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (4h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (4h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (4h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (4h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (4h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

Zero2Cool (4h) : I literally just said it.

packerfanoutwest (4h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't

Zero2Cool (4h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.

Zero2Cool (4h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.

packerfanoutwest (5h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what

Zero2Cool (5h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.

packerfanoutwest (5h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in

packerfanoutwest (5h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker

packerfanoutwest (5h) : if bucs win out they win their division

beast (5h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us

packerfanoutwest (5h) : falcons are already ahead of us

beast (5h) : Packers will get in

beast (5h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen

packerfanoutwest (5h) : they still are in the playoffs

packerfanoutwest (5h) : If Packers lose the remaining games,,,,at 10-7

Zero2Cool (7h) : We can say it. We don't play.

Mucky Tundra (8h) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints

Mucky Tundra (8h) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games

Mucky Tundra (8h) : Packers are not in and have not clinched a playoff spot.

buckeyepackfan (9h) : Packers are in, they need to keep winning to improve their seed#.

Mucky Tundra (18h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan

beast (18h) : Too bad Seahawks couldn't beat Vikings

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Mucky Tundra (21h) : Or ties, but let's be real here

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