nerdmann
10 years ago

Next year is already here. For this team. Time to look to the draft, where unfortunately it isn't looking like there is a Stud ILB that we all would like to see.

Its hard to say they don't have the attitude or desire, but when you look at Sea and GB, it isn't hard to see the difference emotionally between the teams. Sometimes that fire in the belly is the difference between a W and a L. And we were on the wrong side of that difference. We have nobody on offense that provides that, and on defense not many.

Not sure where that can come from because it is not in the nature of Dom, Mike or Ted.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Mike does not have the ability to lead men into battle.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
10 years ago

Mike does not have the ability to lead men into battle.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This is a ridiculous oversimplification. 7 point dogs, mvp qb limited, top wr with appendicitis going into the defending champs, best defense since 85 bears.

The team dominated all but the last few minutes and you're going to say he can't lead men?

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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Mike does not have the ability to lead men into battle.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Mike and Dom are like Generals, great at planning the battles and wars. But not who you walk into battle with. For that you look to the Sergeants.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago

Packers have some decision to make...

FAs this offseason:
Randall Cobb, WR
Bryan Bulaga, OT
Tramon Williams, CB
B.J. Raji, DT
Letroy Guion, DT
Davon House, CB
Jarrett Bush, CB
Matt Flynn, QB
Scott Tolzien, QB
John Kuhn, FB
DuJuan Harris, RB
Jamari Lattimore, ILB

Originally Posted by: beast 



Of those, I want to see Williams gone and it does not have to do with the amount of money he will make or his play on the field. It is because he is not a leader and at the point of his career he should be. He made that clear last year when he said there needs to be more veteran leadership. Well he is the veteran of the secondary, it is his job to be that leader. If there is a shortage it is his fault for not being one.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
10 years ago

This is a ridiculous oversimplification. 7 point dogs, mvp qb limited, top wr with appendicitis going into the defending champs, best defense since 85 bears.

The team dominated all but the last few minutes and you're going to say he can't lead men?

Originally Posted by: musccy 



It's a pattern.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
pchour88
10 years ago
This loss was very heartbreaking, as I will finally admit. I thought we were ready, but I was wrong. Bostick screwed up and the offense just didn't click like always. The only positive that came out of this was that they exposed Wilson for what he is: an average QB at most. The hawks fans may try to defend their QB despite that "heroic" comeback but 5 picks almost screwed them over and the Packers nearly won this game.

As for next year's schedule for this team: Schedule for us  this DOES look tough depending on the moves those teams will make, although the north will get tough depending on what moves the Bears make now that Fox is coaching that team, as well as Suh commanding the most $$$ from whatever team that wants him. Our defense was fantastic, until that fateful game-winner Kearse made as well as dumb mistakes they made in the last quarter. If the Hawks' defensive coordinator takes that job in Atlanta, maybe their defense will dip a bit depending on who they'll hire to replace him.

This will hurt for a while, I guarantee that.
musccy
10 years ago

It's a pattern.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Bostic dropping onsidrs, haha napping on 2 points, Burnett kneeling on ints, and James starks dropping passes at the 5 are all patterns you can directly attribute to the coach?
beast
10 years ago

Of those, I want to see Williams gone and it does not have to do with the amount of money he will make or his play on the field. It is because he is not a leader and at the point of his career he should be. He made that clear last year when he said there needs to be more veteran leadership. Well he is the veteran of the secondary, it is his job to be that leader. If there is a shortage it is his fault for not being one.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



The man called out his own boss to get more vets, that's ballsy and leadership (if it's correct) and you have to admit he was correct, with getting Peppers and Guion.

He lead in saying they needed MORE of it.

Mike Daniels who's been leading as of late said it was Tramon Williams who lead him, it was Williams who convinced him to not just go along to be along, but be yourself and speak up when you want to speak up and say what you want to say and be who you want to be. That is leadership. Williams had leadership.
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DakotaT
10 years ago
Tramon has to be resigned because neither Hayward or House have played well enough to justify letting him walk. If a premier left tackle was let go and hits free agency, I would try and snag him up and move Bahktiari to RT and let Bulaga walk. That would solidify our O-line. I also hope we draft 3 more linebackers this year and make those positions of strength.

And we also need a bonecrushing fullback. Felton from Minnesota is a free agent, otherwise, you have the roll the dice on a rookie to groom behind Kuhn.
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beast
10 years ago

Tramon has to be resigned because neither Hayward or House have played well enough to justify letting him walk. If a premier left tackle was let go and hits free agency, I would try and snag him up and move Bahktiari to RT and let Bulaga walk. That would solidify our O-line. I also hope we draft 3 more linebackers this year and make those positions of strength.

And we also need a bonecrushing fullback. Felton from Minnesota is a free agent, otherwise, you have the roll the dice on a rookie to groom behind Kuhn.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



If you let them compete against each other at RT, I'm not sure Bahktiari would beat Bulaga... might be a down grade at RT. Also heck I think Bulaga would make one hell of an OG, maybe as good or better than Sitton not having to worry about an edge rusher on the outside and both Sitton and Lang have been dealing with their own injuries.


Is Felton really that good? Or is he just getting hype from playing in front of RB Peterson?

These guys might hit harder than Felton.

John Kuhn, Green Bay Packers
Will Tukuafu, Seattle Seahawks (former DL, not the most athletic but can hit hard)
Henry Hynoski, New York Giants
John Conner, New York Jets

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