Packers: Pretenders or Contenders· Page 9

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

It wasn't a blown coverage on Jordy. Revis was there and in coverage Jordy just toasted him on the route and after the catch.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Skippy is a schmuck in the full Yiddish meaning. He has hated GB at least since he was at the Chicago Tribune in the 90's and Brett stuck it to the Bears time after time.

He now lives in Connecticut so you know he loves the Patsys.

musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#82

Rob Demovsky ‏@RobDemovsky 32m32 minutes ago
A.J. Hawk: "Unless you go and do it in the playoffs, it doesn’t mean anything. ... So we’ll see. I’ll let you know hopefully in February."

---Thank you, AJ...this is MEANINGLESS...UNLESS this team does something with it. I like playoff wins that lead to rings. Not regular season wins.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I ultimately share and agree with Hawk's perspective.

That said, I wouldn't say this is meaningless. The Packers beat a legitimate team. I didn't verify this, but according to CBS it meant holding #2 vs the #6 seed. It's a confidence booster, even a character win since they had to fight for it rather than just coast on the coattails of a dominating first half. There are a lot of positives that came from this.

wpr
Preferred Member

10 years ago

#83

Nick Foles was not playing as well as Mark Sanchez has been so that doesn't even need to be worth mentioning. [duh]

The thoroughality of beating the Eagles and this zero turnovers from either team win over the Patriots.

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Well I guess this shows your lack of understanding of the NFL. And Qbs. [duh]

Foles was the starting QB all through TC and took the majority of the snaps. Foles was the starting QB for another 9 weeks. Phillie was 5-2 with their only losses at SF and AZ. Just about every QB would be satisfied with that kind of success.

I don't care who the backup QB is, it is hard to be sharp with only 1 week as the starting QB.

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#84

Originally Posted by: musccy

It is meaningless IF they go one and done again. Who will care about this win if we bow out in our first playoff game? Who?

We NEED the seeding help. We're very good at home this year and not so good on the road. I think everyone would admit that. This is not 2010... going on the road isn't an option for this particular team.

Arizona is toast. The key will be whether we can hold off Seattle record wise for the top seed. Seattle will win the NFCW and Arizona won't even make it. If we tie with Seattle they are the #1 seed assuming we beat Detroit.

None of us wants to see Seattle...at Lambeau, which is preferable, or otherwise.

Great win to set the table... but AJ Hawk is right. It doesn't mean a thing if they blow it, again, in the playoffs.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

earthquake
Member

10 years ago

#85

At this point, no team's win this week means anything in terms of wins in the playoffs (other than helping to get there, which is the important bit in the regular season). I think you're delusion if you think any poster's enthusiasm over beating a very good team means the Packers have already won the superbowl, I don't think anyone has suggested anything like that.

Getting to the playoffs is hard, winning in the playoffs is very hard, winning the superbowl is down right improbable (only 1 out of 32 teams does it every year). I think all of the fans on this site are aware of these realities. However, thus far, the Packers have shown to be a very good team, and in the past 3 weeks have beat 2 of the 3 9-3 teams which they currently share the league's best record with. I would say that being excited about this team's potential is quite reasonable, and you nor I nor anyone else on this site knows what will happen in the playoffs. Its why we watch the games after all.

You can point to loses in the playoffs in previous years, but at this point, only 3 NFC teams that made the playoffs from last year would qualify again this year, and the NY Giants for instance have won 2 superbowls in recent memory stacked between some downright awful seasons, so one year's success or lack thereof generally has very little bearing on the next.

Facts:
1. The year before the Packers won the superbowl, they lost in the first round of the playoffs
2. At least 66% of teams in the NFL finish the season with a loss in the their first game of the playoffs, or worse (not getting to the playoffs at all).

Now, these facts do not mean the Packers will win in the first round of the playoffs (as mentioned above winning any game in the playoffs is very hard), but it does help to keep perspective.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#86

Just don't start picking them to win or it could throw a wrench into the whole works.

Originally Posted by: sschind

lol so someone is finally paying attention and catching on to my shtick rather than saying I don't understand. :)

Tramon has the right mindset. This win was never labeled as a Super Bowl victory, so why anyone is going to say the Packers haven't won anything yet is beyond me. If you don't win in the regular season, you don't get a chance in the playoffs. It's kind of common sense. Even Terry Bradshaw gets that.

musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#87

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

I agree with pretty much all of this. I said somewhere else that as great as today was, so was Dallas' win over Seattle and look how distant that appears now. None of us will forget 15-1, and it's always in the back of my mind after these wins, it's the cruel reality of virtually any sport.

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#88

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

That's nice, then why don't you just wait till Feb and see if the team made the Superbowl then watch if they did. None of these games mean anything so why even follow them. It's not like this was a great team on the road in 2010 either they were 3-5.

The reason everyone watches the games is because they are entertaining and this game was freaking entertaining. Whether they win or lose in a couple months I got enjoyment out of watching todays game so it certainly wasn't meaningless. If we bow out of the playoffs early I certainly won't hang my hat on the fact that we beat New England in November but I'm not going to be miserable all year because there's a chance that might happen. It seems stupid to not enjoy any games during the season because of something that might and even probably will happen months later.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#89

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I see a little veteran leadership in Tramon's statement.

Plenty of young guys on this team that could take this win as something special, when in fact it is just 1 win.

I said it a few weeks ago, this TEAM could become something special, but they must keep everything in perspective.

Enjoy the victory tonight, come tomorrow it is time to start getting ready for Atlanta.

I as a fan of The Green Bay Packers have and will continue to Enjoy this season.

If you can't enjoy the ride, why get on?

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#90

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Who said I wasn't entertained? I said earlier I was ecstatic with the win. However, I don't watch just to watch regular season football. If I wanted to get all geeked up about meaningless wins, I'd be a huge college football fan which I'm not.

I do wish to be entertained... the ultimate entertainment is watching a SB win. This helps in that quest so I respect what it might mean and what it does mean. I just prioritize bigger goals like Rodgers said in his presser. Goals are much bigger than beating NE at home in Week 13. Do you think Aaron will be disappointed if they don't win it all? Would you tell him to just be entertained and not worry about them not winning it all because it's so hard to do?

As said earlier...on to Atlanta prep. This game is over. I enjoyed it. Next.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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beast (16m) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (17m) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (27m) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (39m) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (48m) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (1h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (1h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (1h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (2h) : I see what you did there Mucky

Zero2Cool (2h) : dammit. 3:25pm

Zero2Cool (2h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

Mucky Tundra (2h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground

Mucky Tundra (2h) : Yeah baby!

Zero2Cool (2h) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (3h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (3h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (4h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (4h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (5h) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (5h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (5h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (5h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (5h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (5h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (5h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (5h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (5h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (5h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

Zero2Cool (5h) : I literally just said it.

packerfanoutwest (5h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't

Zero2Cool (5h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.

Zero2Cool (5h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.

packerfanoutwest (5h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what

Zero2Cool (5h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.

packerfanoutwest (5h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in

packerfanoutwest (5h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker

packerfanoutwest (5h) : if bucs win out they win their division

beast (5h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us

packerfanoutwest (5h) : falcons are already ahead of us

beast (6h) : Packers will get in

beast (6h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen

packerfanoutwest (6h) : they still are in the playoffs

packerfanoutwest (6h) : If Packers lose the remaining games,,,,at 10-7

Zero2Cool (7h) : We can say it. We don't play.

Mucky Tundra (9h) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints

Mucky Tundra (9h) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games

Mucky Tundra (9h) : Packers are not in and have not clinched a playoff spot.

buckeyepackfan (9h) : Packers are in, they need to keep winning to improve their seed#.

Mucky Tundra (18h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan

beast (19h) : Too bad Seahawks couldn't beat Vikings

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