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Cheesey
Preferred Member

10 years ago

Why is it some have to always boil every discussion down to "right wing" or "left wing?"
I think THAT alone is one of the major problems.
Questions that are asked are always labeled it seems.
If you just kiss off every question as a political one, you are missing the boat in my view.

I know I'm considered a "right wing nut case" by some, and that usually means that ANYTHING I say will be poo poo'd by some and ignored automatically.

I try to take what anyone says and think it out before saying "That comes from a lefty, and therefore has no merit."
That's just not the right way to go.

Of course that's just coming from this right wing nut case.![grin1]

Today's world is far from the one from the 1960's and earlier. With the high prices of EVERYTHING, there are few families that can make it on one income.
People do what they have to to survive. I myself would hate to send my kids to some day care, where you have NO idea how they are treated or what they are being taught.
The formative years are very important to a child's growth.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#12

The primary point of this discussion is that parents should be spending those first five years raising their children, not child care centers. The tax break thing was my concession that I am willing to make for those MARRIED couples who need a small break to get by. Notice the MARRIED couples and realize that implication.

The neighborhood you are talking about is what I am looking to move into next year at the earliest. Something I can set up shop for a decade or so until all my girls are moved out. Then I'm going to build myself a small shack with a full bathroom and garage on a tiny piece of land that has high speed internet and fall off the gird.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

By the way, There is tax breaks for dependent daycare already.

The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!

dfosterf
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#13

The kids are treated just fine in day care. Impressively so, imo. Hell, I wish I got to go to daycare! ...At least the version from the YMCA presented to us. VERY impressive!

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#14

The kids are treated just fine in day care. Impressively so, imo. Hell, I wish I got to go to daycare! ...At least the version from the YMCA presented to us. VERY impressive!

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

Just fine huh? Who thinks 'just fine' is acceptable? Work 40+ hours a week so you can pay someone else to raise your kids while 60-70% of your net income goes towards the cost of child care. Slap a bandaid on it and call it a day right? Why find the root of the issue? Forget that, I mean JUST FINE is acceptable, right? Oh, wait, I know! The answer is RAISING MINIMUM WAGE!!!

Treated just fine, what a load.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Let's review. Arianna would be my 6th child, were she mine...which she IS, if you look at the alternatives... I have some experience. I am in a position to afford any day care my wife deigns to send her to. My wife opted for there. My wife opted for that place for some of the same reasons you expressed earlier... my granddaughter is intertwined with her public school contemporaries- friends- "just fine". It was the best path for her to take to public school kindergarten. You really think I'd send my granddaughter anywhere I was uncomfortable with in any way?

Keep your pecker in your pocket if you can't raise a kid, I always say. If you are paranoid, I recommend you listen to those older and wiser.

DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#16

Dakota has a high paying job. He just told us he's making 3500 this week. Maybe he should take his 3500 and go to the park and hand it out to the stay at home moms.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

Dumbass, when the twins were born - Julie quit her job and took in a few more kids, we qualified for food stamps, because I had a shitty paying State job.

And as for your little shot - I can't hang out in the park, I HAVE TO WORK. Besides, I pay my taxes without bitching. I just wish I mark a box on the 1040 that says - send these funds to anything other than the War Machine.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

You are such a girl, I affected your sensibilities. I guess you can now pay back the money taken for the food stamps.

If I ever see that box you speak of, I'll be in front of you putting the x on it. Just be aware- These crazy bastards all over this world would scare the crap out of you, if you knew them. You don't have to know them.

You can call the ghostbusters if shit hits the fan. The reason you got higher gas prices than what you'd like is because of refining and transportation, fool. Your state refines oil into shit you can't use. They are building 2 new refineries, which is excellent, if you look at the history of refineries in this country, but you can't use them, either.

You should know that, turbine builder. What? do they let let you put in the big bolts to hold the gears? What tragedy is your education?

Impress your wife back in N Dakota. Come here with facts to impress me. Oh, and let me know what college you drank/ skated through if any so I can NOT send my grandchildren there. You want to be an asshole? I can work with that.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Like the judge told me. 4 kids. 4 jobs. Not interested in my job. I was told to tell the Navy to turn this ship around, I got child support! Welcome to America. Bounce the concept off the girls in the park. They will feel you, bro!

DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

We have a refinery right in Mandan, which is right across the river from Bismarck - and we have the highest priced gas in the upper Midwest. Got anything else?

And who the hell are you to judge what anybody for work jarhead turned Home Depot apron wearer? You didn't really set the world on fire did you? I know in your mind the career military man is the shit, but to me, you're just another overpaid beaurocrat.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#20

Keep your pecker in your pocket if you can't raise a kid, I always say. If you are paranoid, I recommend you listen to those older and wiser.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

If you're married and having kids, one of the parents should be raising the child full time, not some child care institution. Are you seriously not able to understand the point being made here about the real problem? What does it say about us that both parents must work? Think about that instead of worrying about your next perceived "witty" comeback. You're commenting often, but your'e not saying a damn thing. Old maybe, wise, not showing it here.

As for the pecker in pocket, no kidding Sherlock. If you knew how well I take care of my girls and help their mothers, you'd be surprised. As for paranoid, not at all, nothing to be paranoid about. Don't even know how that mixes with this.

If we raise better kids, we raise a better society. The saying goes, children are our future, yet we have child care institutions raising them during the most important five years of their lives?

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

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beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

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beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

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