porky88
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10 years ago
After showing steady progress over a four-game winning streak, Green Bay looked overmanned in the Superdome, losing 44-23 to the New Orleans Saints.

The Packers enter their bye week on a sour note, as the Saints overwhelmed them. New Orleans accumulated 495 total yards (302 passing, 192 rushing) and scored on eight of their 10 possessions.

Green Bay (5-3) is now halfway through their season, and it’s very clear they are a team with many flaws. It starts with coaching, where Coach Mike McCarthy made a couple of mind-numbing decisions on Sunday night.

I won’t fault him for the onside kick attempt, as it has worked in the past. However, McCarthy squandered a goal-line opportunity in the first quarter, after running back Eddie Lacy ran 67 yards on a screen pass to put them in position to take a 14-7 lead.

On first down, McCarthy lined quarterback Aaron Rodgers up in shotgun and ran Lacy to the right side. In order for the play to work, receiver Randall Cobb needed to execute a difficult crack-back block, which is illegal if executed improperly. Cobb missed the block, and the Saints stuffed Lacy. Asking a 192-pound receiver to make that block was probably too much, especially with the Saints playing their goal line defense.

McCarthy’s second-down call was the most controversial of the season. The Packers lined linebacker Julius Peppers out at receiver and opted to throw him a pass. However, instead of throwing Peppers -- who is 6-foot-7 -- a jump ball in the back of the end, the Packers had the veteran linebacker run a slant route. The pass fell incomplete.

The fact Green Bay felt it necessary to try unorthodox plays in order to beat the Saints speaks volume to their confidence entering Sunday night’s game.

The lack of confidence (assuming it existed) was surely the result of the defense, which was undermanned with three starters (cornerback Sam Shields, defensive lineman Datone Jones, and Safety Morgan Burnett) sitting due to injury.

Injuries are no excuse for the performance put forth by the defense, however. I thought I was watching a 2011 game, as Packer defensive backs launched their bodies at running back Mark Ingram instead of wrapping him up. Additionally, the defense looked slow on New Orleans’ turf. Receiver Brandin Cooks and tight Jimmy Graham had no problem leaving Green Bay’s defenders in their dust.

Here’s the rest of my week eight recap:

Turning Point

On New Orleans’ first second-half possession, Green Bay made a potential game-changing stop on fourth-and-2. The Packers took over at their own 43, and drove inside New Orleans’ red zone. On a second-and-3, Rodgers scrambled for about seven yards, and tweaked his hamstring while running out of bounds. He wasn’t the same after the injury. He didn’t trust his mobility in the pocket, and he wasn’t stepping into this throws. As a result, the velocity on his throws fell affecting his accuracy. The injury isn’t severe, but it would’ve been interesting to see how this game unfolded with a healthy Rodgers behind center.

Unsung Hero

Give defensive coordinator Rob Ryan credit for resisting the temptation to blitz Rodgers. The Packers are at their best when teams blitz them, so Ryan had to go against his nature and play coverage. The Saints were going to takeaway anything downfield. In many ways, they played a bend but don’t break defense. They were willing to surrender yards and field goals, as they knew their offense was capable of pouring it on Green Bay’s defense. The strategy worked, though Rodgers’ hamstring deserves an assist.

Dud of the Game

Not only did Green Bay’s corners let them down in the passing game, but they also couldn’t tackle the entire night. Cornerbacks Davone House and Tramon Williams played poorly on the edges, missing a combined five tackles. Perhaps the ankle injury that Williams sustained against Miami a few weeks back still bothers him. However, House had no excuses. He just played bad.

Looking Ahead

Green Bay historically plays well in the months of November and December. Since ‘09, the Packers have a combined November and December record of 29-14-1. Five of the losses were from last season, when Rodgers was out with a fractured collarbone.

The defense obviously needs to get better, especially against the run. The offense also has its faults. Running back Eddie Lacy has yet to carry the ball 20 times in a game this season. I understand the need to conserve him for the playoffs, but Lacy is a bell cow who gets better the more he touches the ball.

The Bears are the Pack‘s next opponent. Chicago’s struggled against the run for the better part of two seasons now. Riding Lacy in this game would be wise, as the second-year running back averaged 5.2 yards per carry in the month of October.
Zero2Cool
10 years ago
The Packers were historically dominate during October and got their butts handed to them.

Davon House is who he is and it is time to accept it. He's a less athletic Jarrett Bush.

Mike McCarthy outcoached Mike McCarthy against the Saints. Mike heard the comments from Drew Brees and pissed himself into over analyzing and second guessing everything.

Mike has slowing been giving the play calling duties to Aaron Rodgers. All QB's should be calling the plays. Yes, I say that with Jay Cutler in mind. The QB is on the field, knows what is going on more adequately than the chumps on the sideline. Feed the QB info from what you observe, let the QB make the decision. This will also help limit those delay of game penalties.
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Mucky Tundra (11h) : Agreed; you stinks
Zero2Cool (12h) : I'm not beating anyone. I stinks.
Mucky Tundra (12h) : rough injury for tank dell. guy can't catch abreak
beast (14h) : So far the college playoffs have sucked... One team absolutely dominates the other
beast (16h) : Well even if you weren't positive towards a guy, you wouldn't nessarily want to tell the media that (if they don't know about it)
Martha Careful (17h) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.
beast (17h) : I think a great running game will do that for most QBs
packerfanoutwest (17h) : Coach Matt LaFleur has said quarterback Jordan Love is playing the best football of his career.
beast (21-Dec) : Oh, that's how you keep beating buckeye, with cheating
Zero2Cool (20-Dec) : There is a rule that if your name starts with 'b' you lose 15 points. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them!
wpr (20-Dec) : and then there is Beast. Running away with it all.
beast (20-Dec) : As of tonight, 3 way tie for 2nd in Pick'em, that battle is interesting!
beast (20-Dec) : Lions vs Vikings could be the main last game as it could determine division winners or #1 vs #2 seed
Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Or if KC needs to win for the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : Right now it looks like the only prime worthy games are Det-Minny and KC-Denver (if Denver can clinch a wild card spot)
Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : The entirety of week 18 being listed as flex is weird
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Matt LaFleur today says unequivocally "Ted Thompson had nothing to do with the drafting of Jordan Love."
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Apparently, the editing is what pieces comments together. That Ted thing ... fake news.
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : LaFleur "opportunity that Ted Thompson thought was too good to pass up"
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Jordan Love pick was Ted Thompson's idea.
Mucky Tundra (19-Dec) : Kyle Shanahan on signing De'Vondre Campbell as a FA last offseason: “We obviously made a mistake.”
packerfanoutwest (19-Dec) : Alexander’s last season with GB
Martha Careful (18-Dec) : if I were a professional athlete, I would probably look to see who the agent is for Kirk Cousins and then use him
beast (18-Dec) : $100 million fully guaranteed Kirk Cousins gets benched for rookie
Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : a lower case b
Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : The real lie is how beast capitalized his name in his message while it's normally spelled with
packerfanoutwest (18-Dec) : haha that's a lie
beast (17-Dec) : Despite what lies other might tell, Beast didn't hate the Winter Warnings, it felt refreshing to Beast for some reason.
Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : whiteout uniforms in general are pretty lame and weak. NFL greed at it's worst
Martha Careful (17-Dec) : The Viking uniforms, the whiteout uniforms specifically absolutely suck
beast (17-Dec) : Thanks Zero2Cool, looks a lot better now
beast (17-Dec) : Seems like someone has a crush on me, can't stop talking about me
Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : Should be gooder now. The forum default theme went to goofy land.
Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : What the hell
packerfanoutwest (17-Dec) : yeah beast hates the Winter Warning Unies
Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Okay I'm glad to know it's not just something happening to me lol
Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Zero, did you copy the Packers uniforms from last night and white out the board?
beast (16-Dec) : Oh crap, is the board going to the Winter Warning Uniforms too?!? It's all white on white right now!
Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : WR Odell Beckham Jr is officially a free agent after clearing waivers.
Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : Packers are 6th in sacks.
Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : RB David Montgomery will undergo season-ending knee surgery.
Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Dan Campbell on onside kick with 12 minutes left: In hindsight, wish I didn’t do that
Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : They have that whole 12th man thing so ...
Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : Of the times we've played there, I just can't recall hearing our fans.
wpr (16-Dec) : Well done jdlax. Well done.
wpr (16-Dec) : I think more likely to be Pack fans that live in the area.
wpr (16-Dec) : Pack fans represent. I pointed it out early in the game to my wife. Announcers said Packers travel well.
Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : That was crazy to hear go pack go in Seattle of all plays. That 12 man thing an all
Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : jdlax, good man!
jdlax (16-Dec) : Mucky, there were too many of us there to credit any single one but for sure i was 60% responsible.
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