dhazer
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10 years ago
I have a new challenge for the one league. They want to veto my trade so I will now be deciding who to try against and who not to. I don't like the whole lets make new rules because certain players where smart and kept running backs for their keepers. So lets make 2 spots wr/te/rb and move it so you can keep 6 wrs and only 5 rbs oh thats right its because they don't want to have to plan ahead. So with the trade vetoed I am shooting for the lowest score and Congrats Buckeye on his win. I have everyone on a bye except Frank Gore Coby Fleener and justin tucker lol.

BTW here was the trade

Frank Gore
Bobby Rainey
Tony Romo

for

Tom Brady
Jamaal Charles
Justin Forsett


Forsett is a backup Charles is hurt and Brady is an average fantasy qb

Gore is still a starter Rainey will stay the starter with Martin coming back and Romo beats Brady stats wise


But yet they veto it

The league is now a joke
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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wpr
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10 years ago
I wouldn't have a problem with that trade.

funny thing is I have Gore and Rainey and thought about adding Forsset.
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Rockmolder
10 years ago

I have a new challenge for the one league. They want to veto my trade so I will now be deciding who to try against and who not to. I don't like the whole lets make new rules because certain players where smart and kept running backs for their keepers. So lets make 2 spots wr/te/rb and move it so you can keep 6 wrs and only 5 rbs oh thats right its because they don't want to have to plan ahead. So with the trade vetoed I am shooting for the lowest score and Congrats Buckeye on his win. I have everyone on a bye except Frank Gore Coby Fleener and justin tucker lol.

BTW here was the trade

Frank Gore
Bobby Rainey
Tony Romo

for

Tom Brady
Jamaal Charles
Justin Forsett


Forsett is a backup Charles is hurt and Brady is an average fantasy qb

Gore is still a starter Rainey will stay the starter with Martin coming back and Romo beats Brady stats wise


But yet they veto it

The league is now a joke

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Didn't know we moved this here now. I guess I'll say here what I said there, as well, then.

The point about the flex spots doesn't make any sense. The whole reasoning was that this reflects what football teams look like now. The only thing that changed is that one RB spot turned into a flex spot, so if your strategy was to carry RBs and have a good rotation, you still have room for the same amount of starters.

If you have such a big problem with being able to carry 6 WRs instead of 5, go and explain your point on the boards there and don't say "because the rest doesn't like to plan ahead". Only 3 out of 10 teams currently have 6 WRs on their roster, so that's absolute BS.

Most likely because Frank Gore isn't getting any carries and seems to be closing in to the end of his (49ers) career. Tony Romo is, as always, all over the place and with Doug Martin coming back this week, Bobby Rainey's carries are gone, as well.

You, on the other hand, get Brady, who will get going eventually, Jamaal Charles, who will be healthy soon and will be back as one of the best in all likelihood and Justin Forsett who, in a PPR league with Bernard Pierce injured, could grow into a solid starter.

It's an absolutely lobsided trade (from my point of view) and your argument to defend it makes little sense. If you truly felt that way, you wouldn't actually want the trade, would you?

That said, I DID NOT veto it. I don't feel like Buckeye is doing it to intentionally throw his games or give you the upper hand. It's not like trading a kicker for Matt Forte or anything.

Rockmolder wrote:



Again, that was just my point of view on the trade.

And again, I did not veto it, because it didn't seem to be completely unfair or intentionally sabotaging the league. I'd like to hear an explanation as to who veto'd and why, as well.

What would absolutely annoy the living crap out of me is if you're going to sabotage the entire league in a childish manner by starting all your players who are on a bye and throwing games against specific teams, rather than find out what and why. Especially since this is a league with people you semi-know.

Zero2Cool
10 years ago

I have a new challenge for the one league. They want to veto my trade so I will now be deciding who to try against and who not to. I don't like the whole lets make new rules because certain players where smart and kept running backs for their keepers. So lets make 2 spots wr/te/rb and move it so you can keep 6 wrs and only 5 rbs oh thats right its because they don't want to have to plan ahead. So with the trade vetoed I am shooting for the lowest score and Congrats Buckeye on his win. I have everyone on a bye except Frank Gore Coby Fleener and justin tucker lol.

BTW here was the trade

Frank Gore
Bobby Rainey
Tony Romo

for

Tom Brady
Jamaal Charles
Justin Forsett


Forsett is a backup Charles is hurt and Brady is an average fantasy qb

Gore is still a starter Rainey will stay the starter with Martin coming back and Romo beats Brady stats wise


But yet they veto it

The league is now a joke

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



This is NOT the PackersHome League being referenced. :-"

I'm still pissed off at that league for giving me a loss when it was a TIE!!! Stupid tie-breakers lol



I'd sit Dwayne Bowe unless you're playing me, then start him.

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dhazer
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10 years ago
Rock the problem is noone will step up and say why they Vetoed the trade. The reason I was making the trade was because both myself and Buckeye were both 0=2 and this would benefit both teams. The problem with changing to flex was because they ran out of running backs to play so to help the teams thy made it flex instead of making them plan for having to have so many rbs on their team. When I draft a fantasy team I look at how many players for each position and make sure I can get that even if it means taking a scrub but now changing to flex positions it doesn't make you have to find a rb just find a wr. But whatever like i said I will veto every possible trade that is made and hopefully buckeye does the same and I will be starting my guys with a bye just for buckeye to get on the board.

Now I see someone said the trade was really lopsided hmmm lets look at it

Bobby Rainey is the 10th ranked fantasy back

Frank Gore 42nd

Justin Forsett is 13th ranked ( side note I was dropping him)

Jamaal Charles 67th ranked back

Tony Romo ranked 24th

Tom Brady ranked 26th


yup I see it lol
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Rock the problem is noone will step up and say why they Vetoed the trade. The reason I was making the trade was because both myself and Buckeye were both 0=2 and this would benefit both teams. The problem with changing to flex was because they ran out of running backs to play so to help the teams thy made it flex instead of making them plan for having to have so many rbs on their team. When I draft a fantasy team I look at how many players for each position and make sure I can get that even if it means taking a scrub but now changing to flex positions it doesn't make you have to find a rb just find a wr. But whatever like i said I will veto every possible trade that is made and hopefully buckeye does the same and I will be starting my guys with a bye just for buckeye to get on the board.

Now I see someone said the trade was really lopsided hmmm lets look at it

Bobby Rainey is the 10th ranked fantasy back

Frank Gore 42nd

Justin Forsett is 13th ranked ( side note I was dropping him)

Jamaal Charles 67th ranked back

Tony Romo ranked 24th

Tom Brady ranked 26th


yup I see it lol

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



It is presumptuous to use rankings to validate the equality of a trade after just three games.

Had the trade gone through, you would have had an enviable roster no doubt! 😱

QB - Tom Brady, Peyton Manning
RB - Jamal Charles, Marschawn Lynch, LeSean Mccoy, Justin Forsett, Zac Stacy
WR - Percy Harvin, Andrew Hawkins, Golden Tate, Jeremy Kerley
TE - Zach Ertz, Coby Fleener
K - Justin Tucker
TM - Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots
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Pack93z
10 years ago
The 5 back rule was in place prior to the draft... so the rest of your rant is bullshit. Don't like it... fine.. I had set the receivers to 5 as well prior to the draft to trade and make the draft a bit more of a challenge. Bumped that one out so that the with the flex you could keep more than 2 over what you could play. You can only play 3 back a weekend.. so five is 2 over. That was the theory behind it.

But lets cut to the chase.. 4 people decided to veto a trade, your trade.. and that is the problem. The rest is just a rant because your sore.. nothing more. If it really is a problem.. just say so.. I will find another player to take your spot. I don't need drama in a fun league.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Pack93z
10 years ago
On the flex spot.. that was done because it more reflects today's game.. multiple wide sets with one back in a PPR league. It had nothing to do with the draft or lack of backs it was so that with the reduced counts on the roster one could shift the lineup around and make it flexible.

I am sorry I made that change and it affected you greatly.. but it was made before league play and has not been altered since.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Smokey
10 years ago
As a league manager myself, I know the backlash that comes from Vetoing a trade. I weighed that trade and ruled it unfair. There were protest, but my decision was in the fair interest of the entire league, There was an attempt to override that veto, but it failed and the league moved on. In my league, we play for fun and bragging rights, not blood and money. Please don't allow a disallowed trade to tarnish your season. After all, It's Fun Dammit !! Have FUN !! [aiee]
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dhazer
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10 years ago

The 5 back rule was in place prior to the draft... so the rest of your rant is bullsh*t. Don't like it... fine.. I had set the receivers to 5 as well prior to the draft to trade and make the draft a bit more of a challenge. Bumped that one out so that the with the flex you could keep more than 2 over what you could play. You can only play 3 back a weekend.. so five is 2 over. That was the theory behind it.

But lets cut to the chase.. 4 people decided to veto a trade, your trade.. and that is the problem. The rest is just a rant because your sore.. nothing more. If it really is a problem.. just say so.. I will find another player to take your spot. I don't need drama in a fun league.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


So who were the other 4 that vetoed it and if it would have been anyone else the trade would have went thru. The league is actually boring because there are no trades and the waiver wire is empty but oh well so be it. Thats the way it is and like I said I can be like the others and just veto trades and not explain why and when the facts are thrown out there to prove the trade I will just use my opinion to make a point and call it facts. Noone bother try sending trades to me because they will all be rejected my team will be the players I have now and maybe some waiver wire guys.

BTW its funny how someone calls the trade really lopsided but yet he turns and sends me a trade like this


Ohyafoster gets
Stevan Ridley RB NE (rank: 32-164) from Jenova Project
Colin Kaepernick QB SF (rank: 14-24) from Jenova Project
Randall Cobb WR GB (rank: 18-58) from Jenova Project
Team 2 gets
Percy Harvin WR SEA (rank: 26-79) from Ohyafoster
Peyton Manning QB DEN (rank: 3-3) from Ohyafoster
Marshawn Lynch RB SEA (rank: 1-13) from Ohyafoster


Seriously mine was lopsided and this wasn't lol


Screw everyone I will still win this league without anyone elses help SO SCREW YOU ALL

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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