No, I'm implying there's a difference between saying "The Packers played like sh*t" and "The Packers are sh*t".

You say "The Packers are sh*t". And Ted Thompson is sh*t. And Mike McCarthy is sh*t. And so on. Read the title of this thread.

Personally, I think Mike McCarthy called a sh*tty game, and the offense executed that sh*tty game plan poorly. There's a difference.

On the lack of motivation/disinterest: I think the defense appeared to be highly motivated during the game, and I'm disinterested in an invented discussion on AR's disinterest/lack of motivation which can have no other outcome that people arguing back and forth "Yes he is". "No he isn't". "Yes, he is"...

My original post did not address the motivation/disinterest at all because, frankly, I kinda skip most of your posts now because I've already read them. It was the title of your thread--which by the way I think was pretty sh*tty--that caught my eye in this case. Sounds to me like a thread that a Vikings fan would post to a Packers web site. You say you're not a Vikings fan, but you sure sound like one to me.

And why would I care what a Vikes fan thinks about AR's motivation?

Originally Posted by: macbob 

You can continue living in fantasy land...that is your choice. I think the Packers are much closer to being brutal than just playing brutal for a few games.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Now, please write ESPN and tell them they are Vikings fans due to their view of us in their latest power rankings...notice who fell down the list the most. A free fall for the Packers... homers ain't gonna see it and believe the RELAX thing. That is your right.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Here is what I am seeing from Rodgers so far this year.

1. He is afraid to make the 4 yard run for the 1st down.

2. He refuses to use the checkdown as many others have said

3. He has no faith in the o-line, i noticed him leaving the pocket early and for no reason.

4. His accuracy is way off.

5. This is the biggest one that I have seen the past 2 years. He is turning more into the Favre of old before getting traded to the Jets. By that I mean he falls down at times when he feels pressure and he is starting to lock in on 1 receiver. Plus he is starting to always look deep and he throws into double coverage. Where is the short to intermediate passes? He looks deep even if its 3rd and 1


All in all I think the broken collarbone has done more to his mentality than to his body.

I would actually be happy if we could trade him for someone like the Bucs next 3 1st rounders. Right now I believe the team would play better with Flynn at the controls.

Originally Posted by: dhazer