dhazer
10 years ago
Here is what I am seeing from Rodgers so far this year.

1. He is afraid to make the 4 yard run for the 1st down.

2. He refuses to use the checkdown as many others have said

3. He has no faith in the o-line, i noticed him leaving the pocket early and for no reason.

4. His accuracy is way off.

5. This is the biggest one that I have seen the past 2 years. He is turning more into the Favre of old before getting traded to the Jets. By that I mean he falls down at times when he feels pressure and he is starting to lock in on 1 receiver. Plus he is starting to always look deep and he throws into double coverage. Where is the short to intermediate passes? He looks deep even if its 3rd and 1


All in all I think the broken collarbone has done more to his mentality than to his body.

I would actually be happy if we could trade him for someone like the Bucs next 3 1st rounders. Right now I believe the team would play better with Flynn at the controls.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Well, "sleighted" isn't a word.

But tell me if I've got it straight:

-A-Rod feels like he's still in Favre's shadow

-Rodgers makes conscious decision that in order to stand on his own as a great player, he'll need to go for big stats.

-On the basis of said decision, Rodgers intentionally blows off short-range, high-percentage throws and only goes for big plays downfield.

Huh?



Originally Posted by: evad04 



Something like that. My hypothesis is that Mike and Aaron want to erase FAvre from the record books. Or at least eclipse his record. Favre not only took a shit on Mike and his project, but repeatedly punked Aaron what Aaron was his backup, as I understand it.

Now however it also seems that Aaron has come up gun shy. I really hope he can get over that.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Here is what I am seeing from Rodgers so far this year.

1. He is afraid to make the 4 yard run for the 1st down.

2. He refuses to use the checkdown as many others have said

3. He has no faith in the o-line, i noticed him leaving the pocket early and for no reason.

4. His accuracy is way off.

5. This is the biggest one that I have seen the past 2 years. He is turning more into the Favre of old before getting traded to the Jets. By that I mean he falls down at times when he feels pressure and he is starting to lock in on 1 receiver. Plus he is starting to always look deep and he throws into double coverage. Where is the short to intermediate passes? He looks deep even if its 3rd and 1


All in all I think the broken collarbone has done more to his mentality than to his body.

I would actually be happy if we could trade him for someone like the Bucs next 3 1st rounders. Right now I believe the team would play better with Flynn at the controls.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



What is your hypothesis for why Aaron is playing this way?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
evad04
10 years ago



I would actually be happy if we could trade him for someone like the Bucs next 3 1st rounders. Right now I believe the team would play better with Flynn at the controls.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Well then let us all take this as an opportunity to thank our lucky stars you're not the GM.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago

You know, if I were a 'Queens fan and wanting to have some fun at the expense of Packers fans, I'd join a Green Bay fan site (say around draft time/Apr) pretending to be a Packer fan.

And then when the season started I'd post an unrelenting series of posts/threads with titles such as "Packers Aren't Very Good", trashing the GM/coaches/players, etc.

You were right when earlier you said we were different types of fans.

Originally Posted by: macbob 



I have a new leader in the clubhouse for my all time favorite conspiracy theory regarding who I'm a fan of. Absolutely HYSTERICAL this post is.

A Vikings fan? Wow. If there was any team in all of professional sports I despised the Minnesota Vikings would be the one.

I've been a fan of the Green Bay Packers for 35 years. I was there for ICE BOWL II when the Packers destroyed the Panthers. I flew to SF the following year to watch the Packers win their 2nd straight NFC Championship at Candlestick.

Yes, I'm a purple fan. My goodness you have to be out of Reynolds wrap after that commentary.

I'm a guy who believes in going for it when you play sports...no other way to play and no other way I ever played them. Full freaking tilt. This Packers team is going through the motions. It's embarrassing to watch and I don't like it and I say so.

On a related note, I love the Michael Rodney quote where I'm taken to task. It speaks of Olivia Munn being a reason for Rodgers struggles...you can see Michael struggle to find answers in his comment about joking??? He seems unsure. That is something muh man evad04 mocked but Michael actually said it.

Disinterest is a function of not being motivated...they're connected. You seem to imply disinterest and lack of motivation are in two entirely different realms. Splitting hairs to try and mock me for something I truly believe and have believed about THIS TEAM since the 15-1 season. It is full of itself...in full blown excuse mode ALL THE TIME as if they're supposed to never lose because they're so good. Soon, they will realize that that's a fallacy and perhaps reality will finally be faced.


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DakotaT
10 years ago
Poor Uffda: accused of being a troll and now a Vikings fan. I just think you act like a petulant child. In fact I have a problem with all this whining about the poor start we are having yet again. I did live through the 70's and 80's Packers, so I know what dog shit football actually looks like.

Where we draft every year is our biggest problem. You can't ever get the blue chip talent on the offensive and defensive lines that you need to play with the big boys when you draft later than 20 every year. Then the two years we did get top ten picks it netted us Hawk and Raji: far from awesome draft picks.

So that leaves we fans a decision if we want to either be competitive each and every year so we have a chance at the stars aligning and we make a run, OR should we do a decade long rebuild like the Niners? I like the first option better.
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macbob
10 years ago

I have a new leader in the clubhouse for my all time favorite conspiracy theory regarding who I'm a fan of. Absolutely HYSTERICAL this post is.

A Vikings fan? Wow. If there was any team in all of professional sports I despised the Minnesota Vikings would be the one.

I've been a fan of the Green Bay Packers for 35 years. I was there for ICE BOWL II when the Packers destroyed the Panthers. I flew to SF the following year to watch the Packers win their 2nd straight NFC Championship at Candlestick.

Yes, I'm a purple fan. My goodness you have to be out of Reynolds wrap after that commentary.

I'm a guy who believes in going for it when you play sports...no other way to play and no other way I ever played them. Full freaking tilt. This Packers team is going through the motions. It's embarrassing to watch and I don't like it and I say so.

On a related note, I love the Michael Rodney quote where I'm taken to task. It speaks of Olivia Munn being a reason for Rodgers struggles...you can see Michael struggle to find answers in his comment about joking??? He seems unsure. That is something muh man evad04 mocked but Michael actually said it.

Disinterest is a function of not being motivated...they're connected. You seem to imply disinterest and lack of motivation are in two entirely different realms. Splitting hairs to try and mock me for something I truly believe and have believed about THIS TEAM since the 15-1 season. It is full of itself...in full blown excuse mode ALL THE TIME as if they're supposed to never lose because they're so good. Soon, they will realize that that's a fallacy and perhaps reality will finally be faced.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



No, I'm implying there's a difference between saying "The Packers played like sh*t" and "The Packers are sh*t".

You say "The Packers are sh*t". And Ted Thompson is sh*t. And MM is sh*t. And so on. Read the title of this thread.

Personally, I think MM called a sh*tty game, and the offense executed that sh*tty game plan poorly. There's a difference.

On the lack of motivation/disinterest: I think the defense appeared to be highly motivated during the game, and I'm disinterested in an invented discussion on AR's disinterest/lack of motivation which can have no other outcome that people arguing back and forth "Yes he is". "No he isn't". "Yes, he is"...

My original post did not address the motivation/disinterest at all because, frankly, I kinda skip most of your posts now because I've already read them. It was the title of your thread--which by the way I think was pretty sh*tty--that caught my eye in this case. Sounds to me like a thread that a Vikings fan would post to a Packers web site. You say you're not a Vikings fan, but you sure sound like one to me.

And why would I care what a Vikes fan thinks about AR's motivation?
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Where we draft every year is our biggest problem. You can't ever get the blue chip talent on the offensive and defensive lines that you need to play with the big boys when you draft later than 20 every year. Then the two years we did get top ten picks it netted us Hawk and Raji: far from awesome draft picks.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Sorry, but that's an excuse. And I don't think that you'll ever hear Ted Thompson and/or MM using it.

If you're going to be so much into draft-and-develop as a a personnel strategy, you *HAVE* to be able to regularly get blue chip talent (or be able to mold other talent into blue chip performance) from later than 20.




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Yerko
10 years ago
Whoa. Did someone really say trade Rodgers and start Flynn in this thread?

WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?!!?!!!!!!????
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DoddPower
10 years ago

Whoa. Did someone really say trade Rodgers and start Flynn in this thread?

WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?!!?!!!!!!????

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



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