beast
10 years ago

You don't HONESTLY believe the Rodgers is trying to ...increase his fantasy value? Tell me you're being sarcastic.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



OF COURSE NOT!!! ... Why? Because in the fantasy league Rodgers and Nelson are in... Nelson "drafted" Rodgers, Nelson and Lacy... and this week they played each other... why else do you think Rodgers purposely missed that TD pass to Nelson? Rodgers wanted TO WIN (his fantasy match-up against Nelson) [grin1]

On a side note I think Lacy has the Lions defense and TE Tom Crabtree took the Packers defense... and offense will be great next week as Brian Urlacher has the Bears defense against Rodgers in the fantasy league. So Rodgers will light them up!

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10 years ago

It's like half of your brain works like a normal, functioning human being. And the other half farts out "stat whoring" and I lose all hope.

You don't HONESTLY believe the Rodgers is trying to pad his stats or increase his fantasy value? Tell me you're being sarcastic.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



No he thinks McCarthy and Aaron have a secret plan to destroy every record that Brett owns.
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all_about_da_packers
10 years ago

I am still trying to figure out why Randall Cobb isn't utilized in the same way or close to the way Seattle utilizes Percy Harvin. Motion, play-action, fake hand-offs, reverses etc etc. If he isn't getting open by running regular, off-the-line routes then change it up. Motion him out of the backfield...DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!!! And with that said, Cobb shouldn't be blanketed by a street free agent...ever. That's pathetic.

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



I've had a chance to check on stats, watch highlight packages, and read through all the comments that players were saying after the game.

To me, it starting to seem like a big problem is the no-huddle McCarthy has implemented. McCarthy said after the Seahawks game that his goal, particularly with the no-huddle, was to not slow Aaron down. It's starting to look like one of the limits with the no-huddle McCarthy likes is the ability to be creative with packages, formations, and routes run.

What really caught me yesterday was Aaron saying that the route concepts needed to be adjusted. Route concepts go to scheming and planning; when have you ever heard Aaron publicly say the route concepts needed to be adjusted? Usually, it's been about better execution and (mental) preparation whenever the Packers offense doesn't click.

So, perhaps the Packers should reduce reliance on the no-huddle. Don't go away from it entirely, but adjust when to use it. I'm beginning to think the Packers don't have the elite talent (Jennings, Finley, Jones) that can consistently win one-on-one match-ups or get enough separation to give Aaron a window to throw that made it less glaring a need to have packages and formations that helped receivers get open. Alternatively, you give Aaron even more responsibility by increasing the options Aaron can call at the LOS such as bunch formation or bringing receivers in motion. Frankly, if one person is suited for greater responsibility on offense, it's Aaron (and that's saying something seeing as he already is responsible for a hell of a lot).

Edit -- I also found it interesting that Aaron's brother, Luke, posted on twitter a few hours after the game a tweet that spoke out about the Packers lack of creativity on offense. Maybe this was Luke posting after a conversation with Aaron, or maybe just another football fan posting his opinion. Regardless, it's interesting to see this criticism come from someone so close to Aaron.
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IronMan
10 years ago
We've been down this road before. We all know how stubborn Mike McCarthy can be. Start out slow, try to go for the homerun every play, Rodgers gets sacked several times per game, ignore the screen game/short passes..Then BOOM, we win 6 in a row. Mike McCarthy will eventually get around to making the right adjustments.

Also, it seems like every year, one or more of our young guys will step up and make a significant impact. In the past, Starks, Shields, Cobb, Peprah,
Nick Collins, Jordy, etc have been in this category.
nerdmann
10 years ago

It's like half of your brain works like a normal, functioning human being. And the other half farts out "stat whoring" and I lose all hope.

You don't HONESTLY believe the Rodgers is trying to pad his stats or increase his fantasy value? Tell me you're being sarcastic.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



Rodgers' inability to let go of feelings of being "sleighted" is well known. He's still trying to prove that he's better than the guy who had the job before him.


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warhawk
10 years ago
The QB was hurried and sacked all day and they couldn't run the ball at all. Of course I'm talking about the Lions.
Yet they won.
It's a game of big plays. They got the fumble recovery and the safety and Arod misses Jordy against a LINEBACKER on a slant he hits 9 out of ten times. Not a lot of big plays just two teams knocking each other around.
I kinda liked it other than the final score of course.
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macbob
10 years ago
You know, if I were a 'Queens fan and wanting to have some fun at the expense of Packers fans, I'd join a Green Bay fan site (say around draft time/Apr) pretending to be a Packer fan.

And then when the season started I'd post an unrelenting series of posts/threads with titles such as "Packers Aren't Very Good", trashing the GM/coaches/players, etc.

You were right when earlier you said we were different types of fans.
nerdmann
10 years ago

We've been down this road before. We all know how stubborn Mike McCarthy can be. Start out slow, try to go for the homerun every play, Rodgers gets sacked several times per game, ignore the screen game/short passes..Then BOOM, we win 6 in a row. Mike McCarthy will eventually get around to making the right adjustments.

Also, it seems like every year, one or more of our young guys will step up and make a significant impact. In the past, Starks, Shields, Cobb, Peprah,
Nick Collins, Jordy, etc have been in this category.

Originally Posted by: IronMan 



Thing is, if you keep on NOT doing what is right, or in this case, keep on shitting yourself or "not winning," as Coach Lombardi woul say, sooner or later it catches up with you.

That is why we do what is right, ALL THE TIME. That is why "winning," is not a "some of the time" thing. Maybe Mike and Aaron have a different philosophy.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Yerko
10 years ago
Well, McCarthy is now on record as of today stating that this has nothing to do with a scheme issue and everything to do with fundamentals. While I don't disagree that the fundamentals play a big part in this worthless performance from yesterday, I do disagree that it has nothing to do with scheme. What do I know though...I am just a fan of the game.

McCarthy: "I'm not up here to talk about scheme. ...Scheme is not a crutch. The fundamentals were not good enough."
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evad04
10 years ago

Rodgers' inability to let go of feelings of being "sleighted" is well known. He's still trying to prove that he's better than the guy who had the job before him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Well, "sleighted" isn't a word.

But tell me if I've got it straight:

-A-Rod feels like he's still in Favre's shadow

-Rodgers makes conscious decision that in order to stand on his own as a great player, he'll need to go for big stats.

-On the basis of said decision, Rodgers intentionally blows off short-range, high-percentage throws and only goes for big plays downfield.

Huh?




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Mucky Tundra (20h) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (20h) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (20h) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (20h) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (20h) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
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