I see posters running around pointing that the sky is falling. Looking in every wrong direction for the wrong answers. The right answer was plain to those that watched the Detroit game. Our O and D-lines were taken to school. ALL, I repeat ALL other positions begin and end with the line play. On Offense the running attack hinges upon the O-line play as does the passing game. On defence, stopping the run begins with the D-line as does the pass rush. Yes, there are plays pointed out where there was a sack or a great catch was made, but they are great individual efforts, not part of the problem. Too much focus is placed on the "star" positions, I say examine the foundation before you buy the house.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 

Well, we disagree about the defensive line. That was not really an area of weakness today. D-line play wasn't spectacular, but the defense only seemed to run into problems in the second half when it was on the field forever.

The offensive line, by comparison, was hot garbage. Completely uninspiring, especially in the run game.

Originally Posted by: evad04 

If you put lipstick on a pig, you just have a pig wearing lipstick and not a beauty queen. Fix the O/D-lines and you fix much of the Packers core problems.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 

If you put lipstick on a pig, you just have a pig wearing lipstick and not a beauty queen. Fix the O/D-lines and you fix much of the Packers core problems.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 

However, even with below average O-lines Rodgers has always had elite level playmaking talent around him while also being on the very top of his game. I'm suggesting the core problem right now is beyond bad o-line to the fact that Rodgers has next to no elite playmaking talent with him, and that Rodgers himself is uncharacteristically in a funk that he can't seem to get out of. Maybe the two (lack of playmakers and Rodgers' funk) are related? I just don't think the fix-all for this offense is better line play/talent though; it seems like something else is a problem.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 

Notice what he says about Rodgers interest. I'm not the only guy saying it.
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Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 

Boykin, Lacy, Cobb, and at times Starks and to a lesser extent Quarless have all "proven" to be more than competent options for ARod, in most instances they have shown this within the last 12 months, so I don't agree with the idea that there isn't playmaking talent around him, maybe not elite, but it's not inhibiting success either.

The bigger problem (of many) is his fixation on Nelson. I commented after the Seattle game when ARod threw about 50 yards across his body to Nelson double covered in the middle of the field, while Cobb was 15 yards in front of his face on the right sideline 8 yards behind the corner with no safety help. One of many examples of some tunnel vision he's displayed.

Originally Posted by: musccy