As for your "back on topic", would you care to state WHERE in the Constitution it says anything remotely like that - a "right" for any kind of marriage?

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

In addition, it forbids states from denying any person "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" or to "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

loc  wrote:

You want to ignore it, but it is simply not about if the law is on the books about gay marriage. It is simply about the fact that the 14th Amendment of the United States affords every citizen the right to be treated equally to its laws.



There are many marriage laws on record.. so simply applying the 14th Amendment to the laws on record, how can one argue that to consenting adults not be allowed to marry and be afforded the protections/benefits/responsibilities of marriage?

You are going to argue polygamy again.. if the laws were expanded to allow that, then it would be open to all as well equally.

It is simply how I look upon it. Let whatever your God is judge you at your time.

I am Christian.. raised Catholic.. but I have a very difficult time "judging" others for their choices that do not harm another. I reject the notion it is my responsibility as a Christian to try and convert or influence another that doesn't believe as I do. I do not see them as anything other than another human being trying to live their life. I hold my believes, I challenge my beliefs often, but I cannot slight another for not holding similar beliefs.

And I firmly believe that is how the government of this free land should govern, we have a constitution and amendments that are set forth as guidelines to set forth laws that should be applied equally to each law abiding member of society. In this case, if two people are legally allowed to form a union, then it should not matter the race, religion nor gender of the people.

Nothing less.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

I think we should check a box on our IRS 1040's to delegate where our tax dollars go. That way all you fascist war mongering retards can vote to keep killing poor people around the world and redistributing more wealth to the 1%, and those of us that care about infrastructure and social programs for the inpoverished in this country can send our tax dollars to those causes. Sound fair Dickheads?

Back on topic, keeping gays from getting married is infringing on their Constitutional rights for equality.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

My word for that would be PATHETIC. A person who believes in everything actually believes in nothing at all. I'm sure somebody said that before me, but I don't know who.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 

Being labeled pathetic by you.. I value that as a compliment. Seriously.. thank you.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

"Those people with beliefs in tune with what has been considered normalcy in just about every place and time period in history don't count with you? They/we don't get equal protection?"

This right here is some funny shit texas! You really don't know as much about history as you think.

You are aware that less than 200 years ago, in this great country of ours, all of those wonderful, moral, loving subscribers to the judeo-christian beliefs that you hold so dear found it acceptable to own other human beings.

Take that weak shit out of here. Pathetic is a word, but it doesn't even remotely describe what 93z expressed. You, on the other hand...

Originally Posted by: dingus 

I think you need to go back and read my response again foster, I said nothing about 93z and was commenting on texas' statement that there was/is ANY normalcy in world history. Stoning, burning at the stake, torture, sacrificing children etc. etc. All in the name of god/ a god. I chose US slavery as an example of the "normalcy" of good, moral, ethical folk who made up the flock. Don't need to be told that everyone did it throughout history and that's a weak arguement anyway.

Fact is, the very title of this thread is what's wrong with gay marriage and the only folks who seem to have a problem with it are the religious who can't mind their own business. What do they care if gay people get married? They'll be in heaven and the heathen fags will be in hell!

93z wrote a concise, heartfelt expression of his faith and how it pertained to gay marriage and his world view.I applauded him.

You wrote an honest and thoughtful post in which you stated your beliefs about gays and gay rights. I applauded you

Texas spewed BS about equal protection not applying to his brand of poor, persecuted christians and backed it up with some nonsense about normalcy.

No assumptions were made. He's about as deep as the westboro baptist church set.

Originally Posted by: dingus