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Cal2GreenBay
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10 years ago

No team plays full out for 60 minutes like you keep whining about otherwise the best teams would average way more than 30 points a game and would allow way less than 20. Football is about adjusting and reacting as much as it is about going out and kicking ass. The other team has good coaches and players too. Look at our game, we came out flat made a ton of mistakes against a well coached and super talented Seattle team in their own house and the score was 10-17 at Halftime. You keep acting like watching a Packers game should be like playing Madden on rookie mode but that's not how it works for any team.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Glass half empty/Glass half full people.
People are different. You cant force them to see it in the same perspective.

We are all packer fans at the end of the day.

Speaking for myself, I am the biggest die hard Aaron Rodgers fan you can speak of(look at my user name).
My being upset at Aaron's performance doesn't make me less of a fan, but a critical one.

I think the packers are a good team and can cheer for them. I just can't cheer for them blindly.
I can't cheer being run over by a freight train, and looking forward to seeing that freight train again when we have nothing that can stop it. Even if we go 15-1, we will run into that freight train we can't stop.

For us, there are TWO Freight Trains. The 49ers and the Seahawks.

I'll cheer as loud as I can for the Packers and be the biggest fan. I don't think it will stop Lynch running all over us, or Kapernick throwing all over the place either.

We will see. It's game one right? =)

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nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Does the other team make Aaron too afraid to run for an easy first down? Does the other team make us put 12 guys on the field for a punt return? Does the other team make Mike afraid to match Jordy up against Richardson? Are they the one's responsible for our "smaller quicker" Dline? How about starting Hawk and Jones?

This is a problem in-house.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#13

That's nice and all but if you are going to be bitter and miserable unless your team is the best and wins the Superbowl every year then there is literally no NFL team you could ever follow and actually be able to enjoy year after year. There are 32 teams in the league and nothing so inherently great about GB that they should be the best team over everyone else.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=321223026 The team that lost this game was 1 play away from winning the Superbowl a month later.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

People are free to react however they want to sports, but I'm sure glad I don't react like some others do. I'm thankful for that. I follow the game about as closely as anyone, but it's still just a game. I expect my favorite team to compete for a Super Bowl each year, but I also know there's little I can do to change the outcome. I'm going to watch the games whether the team is good or bad just like I have for years, so I might as well find some way to enjoy it. I've wanted Dom Capers gone for a while now. James Campen, too. I've wanted multiple players benched and/or cut. But acting like a petulant child on internet forums isn't going to make any of that happen. It's just a practice in futility. If it truly makes some people feel better, than I suppose I would encourage it, but it certainly doesn't seem like any positive energy comes of it. It just leads to a less-than-pleasant forum experience for me and obviously at least a few others. It's completely possible to debate opinions intelligently without resorting to obviously subjective emotional responses, but that escapes many on the internet.

I'm going to enjoy watching the Packers beat up on the Jets next week. A lot can change between here and the end of the season. Aaron Rodgers could be lost to injury. Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman the same. One never knows what could change the entire face of a team. In the NFL, it doesn't really matter who is the most talented on paper or the best early in the season. It matters who is playing the best football throughout the playoffs and the Super Bowl. That very well might be the Seahawks again, but that's far from a guarantee. As Packers fans well know, injuries can dramatically turn the course of a season. How many here actually think the Packers wouldn't have been at least a little better the past few seasons had they been healthy? Week 1 when both teams are fairly healthy, the Seahawks are obviously better than the Packers and that shouldn't surprise anyone. But there's no way of knowing if that will be the case in the wildcard round or beyond.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

As far as I'm concerned, most of those are coaching problems. It doesn't matter how long they have to prepare, because the same issues are going to continually occur.

Packnic
Registered

10 years ago

#15

Unless the 49ers(did you see them play yesterday?) and the Seahawks, somehow fall off the face of the Earth, the Packers will not see the Superbowl until some big improvements are made.

Being able to say that doesn't mean we aren't fans. There are realist kinds of fans, and rose colored fans. There's many types.

Originally Posted by: Cal2GreenBay

Based off of ONE game, you are willing to say that we have no shot at the Super Bowl. Even though the last time we won the Super Bowl we were 3-3 and looked even shakier than we did against Seattle.

It's not the disappointment that is annoying, we got walloped and it sucked. Its the rash sweeping generalization that the sky is falling. Only one team in the history of football has won a Super Bowl going undefeated. Saying that one thorough beating is enough to rule out a team and fire every coach we can get our hands on is just flat out stupidity.

We got beat. It sucked. At least watch one more effing game for patterns and problems before crying about lost potential and the end of the free world.

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Packnic

Some posters only like to frequently comment when things are going bad in Packerland. After some great victories, the forum will be pretty quiet. A bad loss or two, and it explodes. It's funny.

QCHuskerFan
Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#17

You buncha losers calling yourselves Packer Fans! You're not true Packer fans. I haven't seen one of you cackling about the Bears loss. You're too busy whining. Pansies.

True Packer fans celebrate Bear losses like Packer victories. That's me! (Of course living in IL makes Bears losses even more important in my world.)

:)

Lighten up. We could have Jay Chokeler as our QB. See? It can get worse!

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nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

That's kind of who Aaron reminded me of this weekend. Jim Everett, moreso.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#19

Based off of ONE game, you are willing to say that we have no shot at the Super Bowl. Even though the last time we won the Super Bowl we were 3-3 and looked even shakier than we did against Seattle.

Originally Posted by: Packnic

I understand the point people are making with the slow start to that season, and agree to an extent.

The issue have, and possibly other "whiners" is after 7 months to prepare, you see the same problems. Another 200 yard rushing performance by an opponent. Middle LBs underwhelming, even Dom said the D Line did a poor job of controlling gaps, tackling was suspect...

Of course you're playing other professionals paid to break tackles and create gaps in the trenches, but none the less it's the repetition of similar issues that seem to hinder this team. Yet again the defense couldn't get off the field and give the offense the ball back.

I'm hoping things will change. Dom himself admitted they're trying to balance new personnel groups and when asked about Jones sort of dodged the question but acknowledged they were trying to personnel groupings to assess talent. It's a work in progress still, so lets hope things improve.

musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#20

No team plays full out for 60 minutes like you keep whining about otherwise the best teams would average way more than 30 points a game...You keep acting like watching a Packers game should be like playing Madden on rookie mode but that's not how it works for any team.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Well said. I agree with a lot of things Nerd says and like his perspectives on this site, but this 60 minutes/shitting yourself stuff drives me up a wall.

How do we determine if someone "shit themselves?" Is it a lack of effort? As much as I don't care for Hawk and Jones I don't think they're not trying. Is it poor execution? Then what team doesn't have execution errors during 60 minutes. Is it a performance that isn't dominating? The other team is paid too. It just seems like such a vague generalization that's passed off as fact.

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