nerdmann
10 years ago

He was just over matched and made mistakes. The guy is great, but he's not a superhuman quarterback. Such a thing doesn't even exist. The Seahawks did the same thing to Peyton Manning the last game they played before the Packers and he was coming off the greatest season of a QB ever, and was the league MVP. At some point, you have to credit the Seahaws defense and home field advantage. They very likely could be "that good." A defense that is that good is going to make even the greatest players make many mistakes, both physically and mentally. That's what makes them great.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I've never seen Aaron scared like that.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
The idiocy in these two pages is nothing if it isn't predictable. The sick shitheads whining about less pork on the D Line are now crowing about being right. That would be low down enough if it were true, but the fact is, it ain't true. The Packers, after doing a reasonable job during the preseason with that more athletic, more mobile, better tackling, and yes, smaller D Line, inexplicably went most of the game with the newest blob of nothingness, Guion, at NT. Where was Boyd? Where was Pennel?

You damn fools whining about the less fatness, what in the hell good do you think Raji or Pickett would have done against the jet sweep - or the off-tackle plays for that matter. Damn Guion got run around just like damn Raji.

The WORSE problem, however, was the use of that total piece of crap, Brad Jones. I think he actually had a few supporters in here before, didn't he? Is ANYBODY defending him now? Among a whole lot of other worthlessness displayed by that overpaid piece of shit, how different would the game have been if he had the peewee football level sense to tuck the potential interception that fell in his lap - that probably any of us in this forum could have held on to? Barrington looked decent; Lattimore looked a lot better than Jones; Hell, Carl Bradford probably wouldn't have played as bad as Jones.

As for all this negativist crap going forward, I call bullshit to the extreme. Yeah, we lost to a damn good defense and a moderately decent offense too - at their place with everything weighted in their favor, etc. Arguably, they picked up where they left off in the Super Bowl. We, on the other hand, have every reason to expect our D to get better - not to mention every expectation that our offense will dominate teams the way the first string did in preseason.

Honestly, I thought we'd win this game; That was wrong. I still don't see any future game we shouldn't be expected to win - right up to playing the Seahawks in the NFC championship, and as rotten as this game was, I would NOT bet against the Packers in a playoff rematch.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

I've never seen Aaron scared like that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He hasn't played many defenses as good as this current Seattle team. Peyton Manning looked even worse during the Super Bowl, and they weren't even in Seattle. As good as Aaron Rodgers is, he could be better. He makes mistakes just like everyone else. It's to be expected, especially against a team that good. Rodgers needs some help. He can't do it alone. More Packers fans need to accept that.
nerdmann
10 years ago

He hasn't played many defenses as good as this current Seattle team. Peyton Manning looked even worse during the Super Bowl, and they weren't even in Seattle. As good as Aaron Rodgers is, he could be better. He makes mistakes just like everyone else. It's to be expected, especially against a team that good. Rodgers needs some help. He can't do it alone. More Packers fans need to accept that.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Or, maybe he's just afraid to take a hit since breaking his clavicle.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
10 years ago


As for all this negativist crap going forward, I call bullshit to the extreme. Yeah, we lost to a damn good defense and a moderately decent offense too - at their place with everything weighted in their favor, etc. Arguably, they picked up where they left off in the Super Bowl. We, on the other hand, have every reason to expect our D to get better - not to mention every expectation that our offense will dominate teams the way the first string did in preseason.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



It's not a matter of losing...it's about getting DOMINATED when all offseason 🇲🇲 and Daniels promise a new attitude and improved defense, "write it down" I think was his quote? 🇲🇲 says it's the best offseason he ever had, all this B.S. bravado culminating in an epic thud for all of the country to see, at a time when we're as healthy as we'll likely be all season long.

I appreciate the optimism, I really sincerely do, but I just can't share your sentiments aside from the cliche "well, it can't get any worse, so I guess that means it'll get better." Daniels and Guion were useless and thrown all over the place by the 'Hawks guards. Guion you can sort of explain away with his limited offseason, but Daniels is our self-proclaimed bell cow. Datone may have actually been the best DLineman in the game but that's not a compliment as much as acknowledging he may have been the least bad. As we all know, Brad Jones is a butter knife at a rocket launcher fight, and Hawk looked lethargic and un-athletic as ever.

We can run a 2-5, 3-4, ameoba, or whatever smoke and mirror scheme we can think of, but with this front 7 personnel I just see another season of 10 minute 4th quarter drives that our defense can't get off the field for.
nerdmann
10 years ago

It's not a matter of losing...it's about getting DOMINATED when all offseason 🇲🇲 and Daniels promise a new attitude and improved defense, "write it down" I think was his quote? 🇲🇲 says it's the best offseason he ever had, all this B.S. bravado culminating in an epic thud for all of the country to see, at a time when we're as healthy as we'll likely be all season long.

I appreciate the optimism, I really sincerely do, but I just can't share your sentiments aside from the cliche "well, it can't get any worse, so I guess that means it'll get better." Daniels and Guion were useless and thrown all over the place by the 'Hawks guards. Guion you can sort of explain away with his limited offseason, but Daniels is our self-proclaimed bell cow. Datone may have actually been the best DLineman in the game but that's not a compliment as much as acknowledging he may have been the least bad. As we all know, Brad Jones is a butter knife at a rocket launcher fight, and Hawk looked lethargic and un-athletic as ever.

We can run a 2-5, 3-4, ameoba, or whatever smoke and mirror scheme we can think of, but with this front 7 personnel I just see another season of 10 minute 4th quarter drives that our defense can't get off the field for.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



LOL

To me it's more Guion, Hawk and Jones. I can live with the rest.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

Or, maybe he's just afraid to take a hit since breaking his clavicle.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Or, perhaps he's being paid by Pete Carroll to flop the game. We could go on and on with accusations and theories. We could just turn on Fox News and get plenty of that.

The much more reasonable assumption is that Aaron Rodgers was playing within the game plan and made mistakes. In other words, he just wasn't good enough. It happens. If the Packers want to win against top opponents, Rodgers is going to need more help from the offensive line, the defense, and the coaches. He simply isn't good enough to win games against top defenses with more help, and he is really good. It just takes more than that.
10 years ago

I've never seen Aaron scared like that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I have never seen a corner back so scared of covering a white boy who plays wide receiver.

Hehe you see what i did there!?
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Cheesey
10 years ago
I see both sides. The guys that look at the glass as half full and those that see it half empty.
True, the Seasquaks are the best. Look at what they did to the Broncos.
But the fact is, I believe most of us expected a MUCH better showing by the Packers then what we saw.
That, to me, is the biggest disappointment. They looked like they thought they were playing their 5th preseason game.
Yes, there are 15 games left. But if they don't improve IMMEDIATLY , their season will be over long before the 16th game is played.
So much promise leading into this season.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

I see both sides. The guys that look at the glass as half full and those that see it half empty.
True, the Seasquaks are the best. Look at what they did to the Broncos.
But the fact is, I believe most of us expected a MUCH better showing by the Packers then what we saw.
That, to me, is the biggest disappointment. They looked like they thought they were playing their 5th preseason game.
Yes, there are 15 games left. But if they don't improve IMMEDIATLY , their season will be over long before the 16th game is played.
So much promise leading into this season.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Some fans might have had a lot of promise. Everyone is undefeated in the off season. But the reality remains that the Seahawks have more talent than the Packers, have a better home field advantage, are better coached, and play with much more passion. Objectively, that was pretty obvious all off season and for the past season or two. Things can change quickly depending on injuries and such. That's why it matters most how a team is going into the playoffs than week one. Things can change substantially by the end of the season. But all things equal, the Seahawks are simply a better team. They did what a much better team does to a lesser team. Not very surprising, imo.
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